Saturday, October 22, 2011

Oh You Crazy White People... Occupy White Street Lacks Black People

I guess they had no Black people as friends on Facebook
Any company, any school, any sports team, any vocation, any city, any avocation, any cause, any... anything that is too white is automatically illegitimate in the eyes of Disingenuous White Liberals (DWL) and the soft-totalitarian structure that has been erected in the US called Black-Run America (BRA).

And the latest cause that is all the rage among the perpetually progressive Stuff White People Like (SWPL) white people class of American people is the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement. Many of the participants in this nationwide movement are aging white leftists. Many more are young SWPL's looking for another cool cause to rally behind, since that half-Black dude in the White House has run out of change.

It's all the rage and highly fashionable to pitch a tent in a public park (or private) and design homemade signs denigrating Wall Street and promoting some DWL cause, all the while tweeting from an iPad or iPhone and Facebook-ing away on a Mac Book. Hope no one engages in unwarranted theivery at these makeshift refugee camps for SWPL whites who apparently got tired of blasting corporate America and fat cat CEOs on social media from their local Starbucks.

Sadly, these SWPL circles and their online meet-up groups of DWLs lacked any Black members as the national media is beginning to notice a paucity of dark faces at the OWS's Starbucks refugee tent city's. Notably, Atlanta appears to be an OWS gathering of odd DWLs and SWPL whites that resembles the racial makeup of Forsyth County from 20 years ago:


Ronaldo Sobral came to Woodruff Park not to be heard but to listen, to watch and to judge the appeal of Occupy Atlanta. One thing he noticed, moving through the crowd, listening at the edge of conversations, was that white faces far outnumbered dark ones such as his.


That is a reality, both in Atlanta and nationally: From the beginning, most movement participants have been white. Over time, more and more people have taken note, giving rise to a swelling national debate about the whys and so-whats. Some people see the lack of diversity as a failing, others see it as irrelevant.


But economic facts lend a certain irony: A movement born of anger over the gulf between the rich and the rest is only gradually attracting the very groups who have felt the brunt of economic inequality, both historically and as a result of the Great Recession.


The upshot is simple, says Tim Franzen, an organizer of Occupy Atlanta: "If we are going to say we represent 99 percent of the people, then we have to represent them."


Otherwise, he and others said, the lack of diversity could undercut the Occupy movement's ability to spur change in the country, and particularly in a city with as strong an African American presence as Atlanta.


"In order for them not to come off as spoilers who are just complaining, they need the moral authority of the black and brown community," said John Hope Bryant, founder of the Atlanta-based Operation Hope, a nonprofit that educates low-income people on financial issues.


"It's disappointing that there haven't been more [African American] people there," said Bob Holmes, former director of the Southern Center for Studies in Public Policy. "Maybe it's got to do with cynicism or that people have given up hope."


Sobral, who works as a designer, said he suspects that many minorities are too consumed by their own economic tribulations to participate. “They’re dealing with their own survival,” he said.


But the protesters in Woodruff Park also stumbled early on, affronting some African Americans by telling civil rights icon U.S. Rep. John Lewis on Oct. 7 that he would have to wait his turn along with everyone else to address the group. A video of the protracted debate over his request to speak has received almost 500,000 hits on YouTube.
Rep. John Lewis accused a Tea Party (another all-white cause/movement reflecting watered down right-wing sensibilities) member of calling him the-word-that-must-not-be-named (a nigger); watching this strange video of aging - legitimately batty - DWLs refuse to allow Lewis to speak is a hilarious reminder that no only was his accusation erroneous, but the OWS people in Atlanta basically did everything BUT call him the-word-that-must-not-be-named.

And it's all on film. BusinessWeek published an article on the lack of Black people at the OWS Starbucks refugee camps across the country; something called Autostraddle.com published this piece on sincere attempts to enhance the diversification of the OWS movement with a People of Color infusion. Obviously, Organized Blackness hasn't found a way to monetarily benefit from involving itself in this movement, but once a steady revenue stream can be assured Black people will start to trickle in to score some easy loot.

Just give it time, and The Blacks will come running to join the OWS movement. The question is if the SWPL whites and DWLs decide to pack up their REI tents and head back to Starbucks before that happens.

Update: Didn't see this hilarious article by Unamused, noting that "diversity" and "inclusion" of Black people with the OWS SWPL Starbucks movement hasn't been a smashing success. Instead, it's been a case study in what happens when you introduce the Black Undertow to Whitopias (and the OWS tent city's are mini-Whitopias): racism toward whites and high crime rates.



67 comments:

SwampThizzle said...

Blacks aren't going to these OWS protests? If so, then who exactly is stealing everyone's laptops and cell phones?

Anonymous said...

If I were in the top 1% I'd be doing everything in my power to encourage diversity at these protests. Nothing will end them sooner.

Discard said...

Beautiful. The multi-cult has no Darks. They would never have noticed it themselves, since they live in a White world anyway. The only Darks they're actually comfortable with are the very few who genuinely like White music, culture, and manners, and they treasure those. They make pets of them, try to put them on display, and eventually piss them off with their condescension.
Sometimes a Black will play along, manipulating the SWPL, acting the friend to get what Whitey has. Disgusting to watch, but the SWPL has it coming. They're so desperate to get what Blacks have, the power to grant multi-cultural legitimacy, that they'll let themselves be robbed and raped to get it. Sick sick sick.

Anonymous said...

Niggers don't like being out in the cold. And the white women who are taking part in these protests, though they speak fervently of tolerance, diversity, etc., etc., are not the type of foul, trashy white skanks who get mixed up with black bucks. They're *nice* girls. And I doubt anyone's passing out free bling and swag there, either.
There's no benefit for niggers to be at these protests.

Anonymous said...

Gee, we have to include the niggers. I've got news for you, including the niggers was the reason this county hit the brakes in the 70's. We had a strong social safety net, a functioning government, and wages that were growing for workers.. But then we started including the niggers, and next thing you know- REAL wages haven't risen in 30 years, we have so-called conservatives who celebrate inane and worthless "victories". We have liberals who refuse to recognize that 90% of black people are the equivalent of Cane Toads. I'm glad OWS has no niggers, the last time the left brought them along- it screwed good hardworking Americans for well over a generation.

Percy Kittens Reloaded said...

One of the biggest, if not the biggest, reason why blacks aren't attending these occupations is because they don't want to do anything that might hurt, or appear to hurt, President Obama and his re-election. Furthermore, if the cause and the movement isn't strictly about them, THEY are the ones who tend not to care.

One interesting bit that was edited from your article, but was in the AJC, was this:

"One African American who witnessed the John Lewis incident was Russell Robertson of Austell. His response was to help establish Occupy the Hood Atlanta, which has taken the message to minority communities that this is their fight, too."

As I said, they don't care about causes in general unless it specifically is about them, hence you now have Occupy The Hood.

Anonymous said...

At present, the protesters are asking primarily for corporate responsibility and jobs. Two things your average hood rat could care less about. The minute blacks become any noticeable percentage of the OWS movement, the message will shift towards outright 'gibs me dat' for blacks and the support, either direct or in spirit for OWS will be out the window.

Anonymous said...

The multi-cult has no Darks.

Because nothing worjs with darks as multi-cults know.

EzE said...

Somebody, please I beg of you, please start some kind of campaign informing negroes that Popeye's is giving away free chicken at the occupy sites

D J said...

"Blacks aren't going to these OWS protests? If so, then who exactly is stealing everyone's laptops and cell phones?"

Whites. Whites who see themselves as part of some grand collective.

My best childhood friend would see something his brother got as a gift and they'd argue over it. His brother would, rightfully, say "but, it's mine". My friend would reply "it's both-of-ours".

That and other reasons are why we have not even spoken in over 30 years.

Anonymous said...

"In order for them not to come off as spoilers who are just complaining, they need the moral authority of the black and brown community," said John Hope Bryant, founder of the Atlanta-based Operation Hope..."

I was already rather credulous about blacks representing 'Americans,' until I came to this quote.

The thought of anyone other than YouTube Rev. Manning having any 'moral authority' from within the enitre black race, had me laughing so hard, the tears were rolling down my face.

I couldn't finish the article. LMAO.

- Fr. John+

Baldowl said...

I contend that there's not much Black participation simply because it looks like too much work. A great percentage of young Black people are just former crack babies who can't be quiet, can't sit still, and can't concentrate on anything for more than five or ten minutes--about the amount of time it takes to knock someone over the head and take his wallet. And they don't do well with discomfort, either.
Also, most Blacks are seriously uneducated when it comes to current events, unless it's being promoted at WSHH, so there's a good chance most of them don't know a thing about OWS, and if they do it hasn't occurred to them yet that there's lots of hustling (annoying, pillaging, intimidating, raping, acting Black) to be done there amongst the entitled white kids and clueless old hippies. Give them time; it will hit them, and then these movements will break up super-quick. Spoiled white kids like their Blacks on TV and radio and in the movies, not standing next to them, saying, "Let me get some o' dat."

Anonymous said...

I remember how blacks changed the dynamics at the Republic of Texas meetings and other patriatard meetings back in the 90's. The groups became misdirected because no one dared to speak the honest truth in the presence of blacks for fear of offending them. Otherwise sincere patriots bent over backwards to welcome and be friendly to these nasty interlopers. The blacks were at the patriot meetings to get free legal help with their legal cases or to get 'reparations'. They don't give a damn about every one else and their rights and freedom.
What started out as a freedom and independence movement degenerated into people scheming ways to get out of paying their tickets and their taxes or even their house payments.
Good research was done and some of the legal tactics even worked for a short while for those who had the means. Some of those who didn't have the luck and the means went to jail trying to do what others got away with. But after a while we were labeled 'paper terrorist' and now our lawful documents are are ignored.
But I have to say in hind sight that one of the factors that killed the movement as a whole was the presence of blacks and **** because then the decent white people spent their effort proving that they were not racist.

Anonymous said...

Long, peaceful demonstrations must sound boring to blacks. They actually sound pretty boring to me, once the novelty wears off. I would probably drift off after a few hours, so I can't fault non-whites for staying away.

Anonymous said...

"...Furthermore, if the cause and the movement isn't strictly about them, THEY are the ones who tend not to care..."

And we have a winner...

Zenster said...

Percy Kittens Reloaded: One of the biggest, if not the biggest, reason why blacks aren't attending these occupations is because they don't want to do anything that might hurt, or appear to hurt, President Obama and his re-election.

This may be a lot closer to the truth. Most ironic of all is the inability of OWS protesters to recognize and out Obama as a prime mover in the corruption that has drained this nation's private bank accounts and overall worth. Clearly, doing such a thing would so conflict with their desired narrative that it simply must be swept under the rug, no matter what sort of unsightly lump it creates.

Bush II was an absolute slacker by comparison to Obama, despite GWB's almost complete immunity to the concept of conflict-of-interest within his administration.

A quick review of Obama's involvement in the Solyndra scandal and numerous other instances of crony capitalism that have gone on under his watch should be enough to disenchant many of these DWLs. Mind you, I'm not holding my breath waiting for any such thing.

Furthermore, if the cause and the movement isn't strictly about them, THEY are the ones who tend not to care.

Put another way, if it isn't easy and convenient, with a really short term payoff, don't count on a lot of Blacks to show up. Let's not even go into voluntarily sleeping out of doors. In all my years of camping and backpacking I cannot summon to mind more than a handful of Black faces, if that many.

Anonymous said...

Hey Paul, off topic, but a bit more on our next black leader...

http://jayraskin.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/complete-godfathers-pizza-sales-figure-from-the-herman-cain-years/

Anonymous said...

Maybe OWS will wake up to the realization that if "the 1%" are the hammer used to crush them and drain their wealth then niggers and mexicans are the anvil. The hardworking whiteman is stuck in a pincer maneuver between despotic bankers and government officials on one side and the masses of illiterate jungle apes on the other.

The revolution can't commence until multitudes of DWLs realize their own sense of pitty for blacks has been used against them by the 1% who control BRA.

Perhaps what is needed is an army of "evil racists" to invade the DWL corners of the internet to spread this truth.

Anonymous said...

You know i used to like some posts on here but this one is just moronic. There isnt a wide range of niggers at these protests because it is a middle class protest, niggers dont fall under the middle class.

What happens when white people in the middle class protest leads to the lower class copying off the whites and calling it occupy the hood as seen here.
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyTheHood

Anonymous said...

I can't say that I support OWS-because I don't. I think it's beyond silly. That aside...

There is a reason you will not see blacks out en mass at these protests; blacks by and large are not an altruistic race. If they are not benefiting directly from being there, they have no interest in it.

This all ties back into the not having long range planning skill or seeing past their own noses kind of thing.

The few blacks I have seen speak on video at the OWS circus tend to be of the high yellow angry type-it's always these half casts who carry the most vitriol for whites in general, and I have never figured that one out.

Zenster said...

What would happen if all of these OWS protesters found out that Obama was a top fundraiser on Wall Street?

Do you think their heads might explode?

You can almost hear the cognitive dissonance grinding away in their atrophied little brains.

YIH said...

You missed a word: was Facebook-ing away on a Mac Book.
Courtesy of Unamused: Occupy Wall Street protesters said yesterday that packs of brazen crooks within their ranks have been robbing their fellow demonstrators blind, making off with pricey cameras, phones and laptops — and even a hefty bundle of donated cash and food.

“Stealing is our biggest problem at the moment,” said Nan Terrie, 18, a kitchen and legal-team volunteer from Fort Lauderdale.

“I had my Mac stolen — that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen, so the first thing I had to do was… get the message out to our supporters that we needed food!”
Let's see here; Pays $5500 for a laptop: Idiot.
Totes said laptop from Ft. Lauderdale to NYC: Idiot.
Camps out in NYC then whines about laptop getting stolen: Idiot.
'nuff said.

YIH said...

Oops, saw that on Unamusement Park first. But that chick is still an idiot anyway.
I also saw the ''Occupy Atlanta'' video about a week ago, so it's movie quote time!
Speaker: ''I, state your name...''
All: ''I, state your name...''

Jesus Christ Supercop said...

Off-topic, but I thought this might be of interest. It's an interview with Jerry Lawson, a black engineer who designed the first cartridge-based video game console. A bit better than a Supersoaker.

Some salient parts:

BE: Why do you think there's so few black people working in engineering?

JL: I think what has happened is that engineering is a thing that has never really appealed to black people directly, because they've never had…

You see, I grew up in a different environment. My mother — she invented busing. When she went to a school, she would interview the teachers, the principal, and if they didn't pass her test, I didn't go to that school. She once put me in a school called P.S. 50. Turns out Mario Cuomo went to that school. He was a little older than me, and I didn't know him at the school, but he went to the same school. My mother — now get this now — the school was 99% white. My mother was the president of the PTA.

But one of the things she had long since said was that the black kids were put under an aroma of "you can't do something." It was something that she felt would not help them with any kind of inspiration to go anywhere. When I was in P.S. 50, I had a teacher in the first grade — and I'll never forget that — her name was Ms. Guble. I had a picture of George Washington Carver on the wall next to my desk. And she said, "This could be you." I mean, I can still remember that picture, still remember where it was.

Now, the point I'm getting at is, this kind of influence is what led me to feel, "I want to be a scientist. I want to be something." Now, I went to another black school and talked to kids who were in the neighborhood, and they did nothing like this. They never went out anywhere, they never knew anything. The kids I worked with, and went around with, and played with — they did different things, right? They were looking through microscopes. They'd go outside in a field — do something, right? These would not do that. All they did was play baseball or football.

BE: What advice would you give to young black men or women who might be considering a career in science or engineering?

JL: First of all, to get them to consider it in the first place. That's key. Even considering the thing. They need to understand that they're in a land by themselves. Don't look for your buddies to be helpful, because they won't be. You've gotta step away from the crowd and go do your own thing. You find a ground, cover it, it's brand new, you're on your own — you're an explorer. That's about what it's going to be like. Explore new vistas, new avenues, new ways — not relying on everyone else's way to tell you which way to go, and how to go, and what you should be doing.

You'll find some people out there that will help you. And they're not always black, of course. They're white. 'Cause when you start to get involved in certain practices and certain things you want to do, you're colorless.

mr_evergreen said...

"I contend that there's not much Black participation simply because it looks like too much work. A great percentage of young Black people are just former crack babies who can't be quiet, can't sit still, and can't concentrate on anything for more than five or ten minutes--about the amount of time it takes to knock someone over the head and take his wallet. And they don't do well with discomfort, either."

What percentage? I won't believe you unless that you can show the proof that a large number of young Blacks are former crack babies. When I mean large I don't mean in comparison to someone else, I mean in general.

mr_evergreen said...

"Also, most Blacks are seriously uneducated when it comes to current events, unless it's being promoted at WSHH, so there's a good chance most of them don't know a thing about OWS, and if they do it hasn't occurred to them yet that there's lots of hustling (annoying, pillaging, intimidating, raping, acting Black) to be done there amongst the entitled white kids and clueless old hippies. Give them time; it will hit them, and then these movements will break up super-quick. Spoiled white kids like their Blacks on TV and radio and in the movies, not standing next to them, saying, "Let me get some o' dat." "

I'm Black and I don't know what WSHH is. What is it? I get most of my news from Yahoo! or BBC. In some cases I get it from NPR.

Robert Marchenoir said...

"They need the moral authority of the black and brown community", said John Hope Bryant, founder of the Atlanta-based Operation Hope.

Wait a minute. Isn't that a blatantly racist pronouncement ? Are only black and brown people blessed with enough moral authority ?

What happened with inclusiveness, outreach, diversity, and all people being equal regardless of skin colour ?

Anonymous said...

"...What percentage? I won't believe you unless THAT you can show the proof that a large number of young Blacks are former crack babies. When I mean large I DON'T MEAN IN COMPARISON TO SOMEONE ELSE, I MEAN IN GENERAL..."

(CAPS added by my own self)

Contents courtesy of Mr Evergreen

After reading this, it is truly hard to believe that this guy is black. The sentence structure, the need explain what he meaned by "large"...

THAT is what is masquerading as intellectual in the proud, black community. I can hear this guy at work, and see all the nodding, White heads acknowledging his brilliance. Good grief...

Anonymous said...

What about "Jet" magazine, mr_evergreen?

Anonymous said...

'Now, the point I'm getting at is, this kind of influence is what led me to feel, "I want to be a scientist. I want to be something." Now, I went to another black school and talked to kids who were in the neighborhood, and they did nothing like this.'

Why do blacks always feel that they need to be coddled and brainwashed into thinking that they are allowed to study math and science? Indian and Chinese kids seem to do just fine without all those mythical George Washington Carver pep talks. Why do blacks always want more special treatment than whites, Indians, and Chinese to do the same work as whites, Indians, and Chinese? evergreen, your kind is a vast 13% of the US population, compared to the tiny percentages of Indians and Chinese (or any other immigrant group excepting Mexicans). And yet you whine as if you're not given enough positive reinforcement beyond what an invisible minority gets. Honestly, do you even remotely care how pathetic you are making your race seem? Of course, you will just ignore answering this point as usual, because you (and all blacks) like to cry about white/black race relations all day long, until somebody points out that other races are not playing the same game as your kind.

Silent Running said...

The few blacks I have seen speak on video at the OWS circus tend to be of the high yellow angry type-it's always these half casts who carry the most vitriol for whites in general, and I have never figured that one out.

People of mixed race have many reasons to be angry. They will never be accepted by either race, being too white for the blacks, and way too black for the whites. Since they will always appear more black than white, they begin to strongly identify with their black half at the expense of the white half. The vitriol you mentioned is a subconscious attempt to burn the Caucasian blood from their own veins. What they want more than anything is to be seen as authentically black, and what is more authentically black than hating Whitey?

Halfbreeds are truly pathetic people. They are permanent outcasts, paying their entire lives for the selfishness of their parents (when not the product of rape, that is).

Let's see here; Pays $5500 for a laptop: Idiot.

Exactly. My jaw about dropped when I saw that one. I'm sure Mommy & Daddy bought it for her, though.

Anonymous said...

"...Indian and Chinese kids seem to do just fine without all those mythical George Washington Carver pep talks..."

Good stuff...

Anonymous said...

Indian and Chinese kids don't buy into that George Washington Carver crap, because they see blacks like this all year round....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8a9_1319215481

Seriously, stealing right out of the child's hands?? hey, evergreen, I'm sure someone had told that black kid, "Yes! You can have your own iphone! You deserve it! Just go steal it from that Chinese child. We shall overcome!"

The comments section is hilarious because everyone knew what color the suspect was going to be.

mr_evergreen said...

"After reading this, it is truly hard to believe that this guy is black. The sentence structure, the need explain what he meaned by "large"..."

Well believe it. I am Black. I did go to school and I am in university and I do graduate from university in 7 months. My father has a masters degree in engineering. He had books all over the house and encouraged me to read them. I was raised to speak with correct grammar as well. There are Black people who raise their children as my father has raised me, the right way.

mr_evergreen said...

"What about "Jet" magazine, mr_evergreen?"

I've never read Jet Magazine. I read National Geographic.

mr_evergreen said...

"'Now, the point I'm getting at is, this kind of influence is what led me to feel, "I want to be a scientist. I want to be something." Now, I went to another black school and talked to kids who were in the neighborhood, and they did nothing like this.'"

You actually think I wrote this?

"Why do blacks always feel that they need to be coddled and brainwashed into thinking that they are allowed to study math and science? Indian and Chinese kids seem to do just fine without all those mythical George Washington Carver pep talks"

George Washington Carver is not a myth. Learning of him let me know there are Black people out there who have done great things in science. Making sure Black children have the bar of expectation raised is important. By raising the bar, this will make people try harder. Why don't Indians and Chinese need these talks? Well, I don't recall anyone referring to Chinese people and Indians as perpetually stupid and incapable of doing science and mathematics. The expectation level is higher.

Anonymous said...

Occupy Oakland is crawling/lousy with niggers.

Free food + an incessant din + communal drugs + idiotic, liberal, guilt motivated, willing white women = a nigger buck's wet dream.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: I get most of my news from Yahoo! or BBC. In some cases I get it from NPR.

Well, that certainly explains a lot. Knowingly or not, you are relying upon two of the most biased and Liberally slanted media outlets on this entire planet.

I can assure that the possibility was rather apparent in the Leftist talking points you continually trotted out here.

BBC Director General Mark Thompson has admitted the corporation was guilty of a 'massive' Left-wing bias in the past.

Yes, we are biased on religion and politics, admit BBC executives

BBC Admits Reporter’s Anti-Israel Bias

NPR was going to accept Muslim Education Action Center donation and hide it from the government

Juan Williams: NPR 'All White Organization,' Exhibited 'Worst Of White Condescension' In Firing Me

Enjoy.

PS: You may wish to ask the people here about what they consider to be reliable news sources. Quite clearly, yours are not.

Even Yahoo is uspect in how they actively participated with the Communist Chinese government to set up search engine filters that detect when people try to investigate such subversive subjects as [gasp!] Democracy

Yahoo assists in Chinese Journalist jail sentence

Anonymous said...

"Why don't Indians and Chinese need these talks? Well, I don't recall anyone referring to Chinese people and Indians as perpetually stupid and incapable of doing science and mathematics. The expectation level is higher."

Well, based on my own lying eyes, it seems that Indian and Chinese kids actually do the work required to excel in these subjects. But for you, there's got to be some other reason, right? Do you actually expect people to believe that Indian and Chinese kids are given advantages over black kids in the classroom? Black kids only have to perform at a third of the level of Indians/Chinese to gain college admission/passing grades/affirmative action jobs. You may think that your victimhood world view will someday be vindicated by hordes of academically achieving blacks, but history and reality show that will never happen. Instead, we will get more entitlement-minded blacks like you doing all sorts of mental contortions to explain away your failures.

Anonymous said...

Like the old saying goes:

If blacks can't eat it, wear it, drive it, or fuck it, then they are not interested in it.

Zenster said...

Robert Marchenoir: Wait a minute. Isn't that a blatantly racist pronouncement? Are only black and brown people blessed with enough moral authority?

One might be led to think so according to Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor:

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

This, from an individual who sits at the bench of what is supposed to be America's most colorblind judicial institution.

Let's exchange all of five words:

"I would hope that a wise White man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hasn't lived that life."

Can you imagine the firestorm that such a statement would have ignited if spoken by an ordinary White man? DWLs and their pet minorities would be screeching from the rooftops.

It's long past tea for American Whites to begin calling out every last racist bastard who makes this sort of bigoted pronouncement in the name of "diversity" and cultural enrichment.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (October 23, 2011 5:41 PM): Free food + an incessant din + communal drugs + idiotic, liberal, guilt motivated, willing white women = a nigger buck's wet dream.

Are you describing Obama or some Oaktown homies?

mr_evergreen said...

"Well, based on my own lying eyes, it seems that Indian and Chinese kids actually do the work required to excel in these subjects. But for you, there's got to be some other reason, right? Do you actually expect people to believe that Indian and Chinese kids are given advantages over black kids in the classroom? Black kids only have to perform at a third of the level of Indians/Chinese to gain college admission/passing grades/affirmative action jobs. You may think that your victimhood world view will someday be vindicated by hordes of academically achieving blacks, but history and reality show that will never happen. Instead, we will get more entitlement-minded blacks like you doing all sorts of mental contortions to explain away your failures."

My point was that more is expected from Indians and Chinese. Alot of condescending things have been said about Chinese and Indian people, but "mental inferiority" is not one of them.My point is that more is expected from Asians than Blacks. When more is expected from you, you will try to live better. Why aren't alot of Blacks kids doing the work they should do? Low expectations.

mr_evergreen said...

"Well, that certainly explains a lot. Knowingly or not, you are relying upon two of the most biased and Liberally slanted media outlets on this entire planet."

The BBC is more even-keeled than the American news networks. And who is to say that conservative-slanted media outlets are reliable? Everyone has an agenda, even a little bit.

Hannibal said...

Expectations, Mr Evergreen? How about you not breaking into my home and business? How about you graduate high school and speak basic fucking English? How about you actually not be shiftless and hold down a responsible job? How about you not trying not to knock up everything with a vagina? How about you not raping and committing murders in my neighborhoods? How about you not turning every neighborhood, town and city you infect into a shithole? How about you not being responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime in this country? How about you actually contribute something to the community for a change?

Are these expectations too high?

YIH said...

mr-evergreen said: I'm Black and I don't know what WSHH is. What is it? I get most of my news from Yahoo! or BBC. In some cases I get it from NPR.

I'd never heard of WSHH either until Paul made me aware of it.
And on another comment you ranted about all those (alleged) black inventions such as the traffic light, refrigerators, and peanut butter.
All MYTHS that have been well-debunked already.

Whiskey said...

OWS is a class struggle between wealthy White kids with $5,500 Macbook Pros who have useless degrees and no real future, and the rest of White America. It is of no interest to your Average Black guy (demands for no borders, jobs teaching feminist theory, and student loan debt forgiveness resonate not at all).

What OWS is however is a thief's free for all. A cornucopia of stuff to be looted: Ipads, Iphones, Macbooks, pricey musical instruments, clothes even, plus lots and lots of drugs. Every low life crook, gang banger and stick up man must be drooling at the sight of all that stuff just there for the taking.

And no one really likes the OWS loons, aging hippies and spoiled brats of the lower elites.

Unamused said...

mr_evergreen:

While there is no reliable scientific evidence that "low expectations" can actually lower intelligence (and account for the observed racial gaps in IQ and other standardized tests of cognitive ability), it is certainly important to make black children aware of black accomplishments, and encourage them to pursue careers in whatever interests them. This, I think, is the easy truth.

The hard truths are as follows:

1. No matter how much you encourage black children, black children as a group (i.e., on average) will underperform compared to Indian children, who will underperform compared to white children, who will underperform compared to Chinese children.

2. The obsession with black underachievement, and the failure to understand point 1 (i.e., human biodiversity) has led to such Big Lies as "black failure is due to white racism," and — less important, but also annoying — the exaggeration of black accomplishments in every area (including athletics and music, actually).

This (point 2) is extraordinarily dangerous for white people, in the short run; and black people, in the long.

mr_evergreen said...

"Expectations, Mr Evergreen? How about you not breaking into my home and business? How about you graduate high school and speak basic fucking English? How about you actually not be shiftless and hold down a responsible job? How about you not trying not to knock up everything with a vagina? How about you not raping and committing murders in my neighborhoods? How about you not turning every neighborhood, town and city you infect into a shithole? How about you not being responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime in this country? How about you actually contribute something to the community for a change?

Are these expectations too high?"

Are you talking about ME personally or my race? Last time I checked, I'm still a virgin, I don't commit crime, I'm in college and I will be graduating soon. I speak better proper English. No, those expectations are not high. When I was mentioning expectations, I was talking about expectations to pursue the sciences and mathematics and engineering, to strive to be something besides an athlete or a rapper. I am talking about striving to be a lawyer, engineer, astronaut, something that actually involves using your brain. That is what I was talking about."

Silent Running said...

Wait a minute. Isn't that a blatantly racist pronouncement ? Are only black and brown people blessed with enough moral authority ?

The short answer is Yes.

Diversity, like all psuedo-communist doctrines, is not what it purports to be. It's not about equality or social justice or living in harmony with all the races of the world. It's about removing whites from power, permanently.

Diversity = Kill Whitey

Why aren't alot of Blacks kids doing the work they should do? Low expectations.

Low IQ.

I've noticed that you're approaching the problem from the assumption that genetic differences in IQ do not exist. Since this assumption is categorically false, you will never gain a true understanding of race relations until you drop it.

The BBC is more even-keeled than the American news networks. And who is to say that conservative-slanted media outlets are reliable?

Real conservatism is what you find in this blog and others (VFR, OneSTDV, Unamusement Park, etc). Only the most diluted of conservative principles are allowed to exist in the MSM.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (October 23, 2011 6:06 PM): Instead, we will get more entitlement-minded blacks like you doing all sorts of mental contortions to explain away your failures.

Paging mr_evergreen to the White courtesy phone.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: The BBC is more even-keeled than the American news networks.

With such a declaration, you have thereby eliminated yourself from any meaningful interaction.

America's own media outlets are nowhere near as biased as the BBC or NPR. Your disbelief transcends all credibility. Quite clearly you have neglected to peruse the convenient links which were made available to you in my last post.

So be it.

Your status in that respect is now completely worthless with regard to any sort of verifiable reference. That piss-poor position of yours is entirely a matter of your responsibility.

Netzach said...

mr_evergreen,

Low expectations are one problem (of many), but the thing is, everyone has low expectations of blacks. Whites who think blacks are stupid and shiftless, whites who think blacks can't succeed without constant patronizing and discrimination in their favour, certainly other minorities, and most of all blacks themselves. Sure, blacks generally trust well enough in their ability to intimidate, hustle and beat up others. Deep down most don't really think they're good for much else. If they did, they'd react to condescension of others by working twice as hard to show the bastards. As it is, they just take the free goodies and enjoy the easy prey.

Good that you were raised the right way. Too bad you aren't typical. This site most likely wouldn't exist, or if it did, it'd seem just ridiculous.

anon,

"Gee, we have to include the niggers. I've got news for you, including the niggers was the reason this county hit the brakes in the 70's. We had a strong social safety net, a functioning government, and wages that were growing for workers.. But then we started including the niggers, and next thing you know- REAL wages haven't risen in 30 years, we have so-called conservatives who celebrate inane and worthless "victories"."

Lots of things went wrong in 70's. Vietnam war, OPEC oil embargo, the resulting stagflation... Economically, the Cold War, military-industrial complex and ridiculously cost-inefficient healthcare system have been as costly for USA as the whole civil rights fiasco. Of course those are just money, and it's hard to put a price tag on the watering down of standards and principle of fairness in the name of affirmative action.

Anonymous said...

GW Carver, not a myth, introduces something nthat was known about in Roman times

Gotta love PC indoctrination.

Anonymous said...

I won't denigrate mr. evergreen; he's doing what all people should be doing, be they green, purple, blue, black or white.

But mr. evergreen would do well to understand that when he completes university and secures gainful employment in a productive private-sector industry, he will have ascended to the absolute pinnacle of his race cohort, and that this distinction is a result not of white intransigence but of the history of the black race up to that point.

Stereotypes exist as long as people fit neatly into them. And there WAS a time in the not-so-distant past that whites thought Asians inferior, that they were physically inferior, that they were all nearsighted and made lousy pilots.

Then Japanese fighter pilots blew whole US Navy squadrons from the skies, their armies ran the Americans out of the Philippines and the British out of Malaya, and Korean, Chinese, and Vietnamese troops fought American forces to bloody standstills during the 20th century as well.

Then they came over here and asserted themselves as masters of capitalism and innovation in our own country.

Asians have earned the respect of the white man. That's the big difference. And until blacks start shooting each other over scholarships instead of shoes and rims this state of affairs will continue.

Anonymous said...

"Well, I don't recall anyone referring to Chinese people and Indians as perpetually stupid and incapable of doing science and mathematics."

Mr Evergreen, there was a time when professional football and basketball were 100% white.
No blacks. None.

Blacks were told they weren't good enough. There were no black role models in the NFL or NBA for black children to look up to.

However, that did not stop blacks from aspiring to play pro football or basketball.

So what is stopping them from aspiring to do science and mathematics?

Your logic is complete bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Proud to be a white man here.
OKC.
I saw only a few blacks as a young boy - a very dark maid of the people who developed our neighborhood (MacLemore's) and the ones I saw downtown when we went to the doctor, etc).
Early-mid-1960's, brand hew school (the original John Glen Elementary, new enough for you? Since has ALREADY been replaced with a new one??? Can't maintain anything?)
The one book from the library I recall reading over and over, was a book about GWC. It was in a series of "famous" Americans. It was hard-bound, colored orange.
I recall it fondly. A good story written about a good boy who made good.
Since then, and after many contacts with black fold, I have pity for that man. He was predecessor to nothing but trash.

Kirik said...

Isn't "Occupying the Hood" exactly what the North American Pavement Apes have been doing since the '60's?

Indianapolis said...

Blacks tend to support racial issues such as civil rights. Few participate in other political endeavors.

kevin said...

thanks

mr_evergreen said...

"But mr. evergreen would do well to understand that when he completes university and secures gainful employment in a productive private-sector industry, he will have ascended to the absolute pinnacle of his race cohort, and that this distinction is a result not of white intransigence but of the history of the black race up to that point."

I do not believe that getting a degree and a job is the pinnacle of my race. Who is to say that I can't achieve something more than that? Just because something isn't happening doesn't mean it can't.

"Stereotypes exist as long as people fit neatly into them."

What if you as a person do not fit into that stereotype?

mr_evergreen said...

"Blacks were told they weren't good enough. There were no black role models in the NFL or NBA for black children to look up to.

However, that did not stop blacks from aspiring to play pro football or basketball.

So what is stopping them from aspiring to do science and mathematics?"

Actually, alot of Blacks were not aspiring to be more than blue collar workers. This was pre-1947. Black people that aspired to the sciences and academics went to historically Black colleges. Before 1947, most sports did not allow Blacks to play in their leagues. It wasn't until Jackie Robinson joined MLB that more Blacks were starting to aspire to join the major leagues.

Very little has been expected of Blacks for many years and it has gotten worse. Now people are looking to the NBA or NFL. It is seen as relatively quick and easy (and large) money.

When Black kids who study and aspire to academic and science endeavors, what do some other Black kids say about them? They're "acting White".

Anonymous said...

When Black kids who study and aspire to academic and science endeavors, what do some other Black kids say about them? They're "acting White".

Let me guess:  you will grudgingly admit that this is because White people provide a better example of behavior, but you'll still blame the pathology on White people.

mr_evergreen said...

"Let me guess: you will grudgingly admit that this is because White people provide a better example of behavior, but you'll still blame the pathology on White people."

Actually, there were some White people who made fun of me for liking books. The example I got was from my father. My father was the one encouraging me to read books everyday. My father, a Black man, provided a good example. He had high expectations of me. He told me not to give into that "ghetto subculture" and to just be myself.

As for the "acting White" crap, well, that probably came as a misconstrued paradigm out of the Black power movement. Blacks were trying to "not act White" and therefore, made fun of any Black person who was doing anything perceived as "acting White", mainly because of resentment and anger at White people.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: What if you as a person do not fit into that stereotype?

Then they should be judged upon their individual merits.

If there is no way of discerning what those merits might be, then it becomes permissible, if not necessary, to judge them by the behavior of others who fit that individual's profile.

You, mr_evergreen, are daily being screwed by the vast majority of Blacks around you who simply refuse to behave in a civilized manner.

It is for this reason that many more educated Blacks need to be standing up and delivering Cosby-esque "Pound Cake" speeches all across America.

Blacks, clearly, will not listen to what a White person has to say. In all their incredible racism, Blacks will usually not even listen to what a fellow Black has to say if that individual comes across as being or acting "too White".

That is the lose-lose situation which a majority of Blacks have voluntarily put themselves in and it is up to them to extricate themselves from this self-imposed intellectual cesspit.

mr_evergreen, I will continue to commend you for seeking some sort of courteous dialogue. When and if you prove capable of dropping the "it's all Whitey's fault" rubbish, I might even manage to appreciate more of what you have to say.

Unfortunately, too often, your eventual conclusions amount to nothing more than standard Liberal taking points. This is a strong indicator that you do not appreciate just how devastating the "soft" racism of lowered expectations that Liberals confer upon Blacks really is.

When you manage to cross that threshold, it will a lot easier to have some degree of respect for your own observations. Until then, knowingly or not, you continue to dwell in the enemy's camp.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: So what is stopping them from aspiring to do science and mathematics?"



When Black kids who study and aspire to academic and science endeavors, what do some other Black kids say about them? They're "acting White".


Asked and answered.

What do you expect any of us to say?

I have already addressed this in my previous comment and it would be wise upon your own part to share your own analysis of this self-defeating aspect of Black behavior.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: As for the "acting White" crap, well, that probably came as a misconstrued paradigm out of the Black power movement. Blacks were trying to "not act White" and therefore, made fun of any Black person who was doing anything perceived as "acting White", mainly because of resentment and anger at White people.

A glimmer of hope. And, no, I am not trying to be condescending, even if it does sound as such.

You must be more than a little aware of just how poisonous the "Black power movement" was for all Black people. By seeking to make such a distinction between races and "empower Blackness", this incredibly damaging movement obliged Blacks to drop every last behavioral trait that could be construed as White and, thereby, discard nearly all opportunities to lift themselves out of the eternal poverty that is "Black culture".

It is quite possible that the "Black power movement" enslaved Blacks into unending poverty more thoroughly than actual 19th century slavery ever did. The wholesale rejection of White culture brought about by the "Black power movement" entrenched racism ― in whites and Blacks alike ― and did more to disempower American Blacks than anything else beyond even HIV/AIDS and crack cocaine combined.