Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Freedom Failed: Birmingham's Edge 12 Movie Theater Closes Early on Christmas Because 400 Black People Riot

PK Note: I had planned to do two # posts in a row, until I read the story below that effectively ends the debate that Flash Mobs Mahogany Mobs will only transpire in states without the right to conceal carry.

Al.com put this picture of a white Flash Mob with its story on the 400+ Black people riot that closed Edge 12 Movie Theater in Birmingham on Christmas Night
Have we started a fire? No, but the fire rises anyways.

There is a reason that Dr. King’s children couldn’t go to Funland. It’s the exact same reason why malls such as Union Station (formerly Shannon Mall) just outside Atlanta are boarded up; it’s the same reason why the Mall of America in Minneapolis was locked-down; it’s the same reason why Birmingham’s Edge 12 movie theater was forced to close early on Christmas:
BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- A crowd of young people -- possibly drawn though social media -- interrupted the movies at The Edge 12 Movie Theater and were disruptive outside in the parking lot of Festival Shopping Center on Crestwood Boulevard Sunday night.
About 400 people were involved, with 200 of them really disruptive, Birmingham Police East Precinct commander Capt. Allen Hatcher said Tuesday, based on reports he got from the off-duty Birmingham police officer who worked security at the theater that night.
Movie-goer Shannon Webster, pastor of First Presbyterian Church downtown, said he counted 18 police cars when he and his family were told to leave the theater, part-way through seeing "Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows."
"I was surprised," he said. "I did not expect to see that on Christmas night, going out to the movies."
Hatcher said that a large group of youths had showed up in the theater and the parking lot Sunday and started to cause problems and disruptions. When theater management confronted them, they grew more disruptive and management shut all the movies down.
Hatcher said some youths out in the parking lot banged on windows of nearby businesses, pushed some shopping carts into the parking lot, and went inside a Chinese restaurant. The off-duty officer put out a call, and police responded with a large contingent.
No one, to his knowledge, Hatcher said, was hurt or arrested, but a window was damaged at the Radio Shack store. The off-duty officer said that youths had heard on Facebook there was going to be a fight.
Hatcher said he recalled Trussville having a similar social media mob at a movie theater more than a year ago.
Webster said he had arrived at the Edge 12 about 7 with his wife and two adult children. When he arrived, there were "a lot of really young kids were crowded inside, milling around."
During the movie, some came into the theater and started making noise, but one of the other movie-goers ordered them out in a commanding voice, Webster said.
"There were hundreds of kids in the lobby," he said.
Webster saw security guards handcuffing several. He thought the crowd of youths ranged in age from 13 to their early 20s.
The outside scene seemed tense, said Webster, who has done church work in places such as the Gaza Strip, Northern Ireland, Cuba, Guatemala, and Communist Eastern Europe.
"Usually there is nothing going on there on Sunday afternoon," Hatcher said of the shopping center. "I believe social media made it a big event."

Efforts to reach the management of Edge 12 for comment were unsuccessful.
Webster said Sunday night was the only time he had ever felt unsafe there, and he plans to return to the movies.
"I don't want it to keep me from going back to the theater, because I think it's important for the neighborhood and for East Birmingham," said Webster, who lives in Crestwood. "We need them there, so I will continue to go there.
Why can't the writer of this story just state that these were Black "youths?" Birmingham, located in Jefferson County, the home of one of the south’s first big Mahogany Mob attacks. This is freedom. This is why freedom failed. Don’t forget that Jefferson County (Birmingham is 72 percent Black) recently declared the largest municipal bankruptcy in American history.

Detroit’s (or Wayne County) will be even bigger.

Not once does the article have the temerity to call ‘youths’ by the proper term: Black people. The owner of Edge 12 stated in an interview earlier this year that the goal was to turn it into a family establishment:
Owner Marty Felts and general manager Rob DeLeo are seeking to bring new life into the old digs, and hope to reinvigorate the Festival Center in the process. Safety concerns from the past have been dealt with, and the theater features heightened security and an interior ticket office so that moviegoers can buy their tickets inside rather than standing outside at a box office.
“We want this to be a family-friendly place, with a committed staff and great employees,” said spokesperson Newton, assistant manager of the Edge, who added that there has been no trouble whatsoever in the area thus far.
Well, having “youths” force the premature closing of Edge 12 on Christmas night isn’t a great way to keep business going. Perhaps that’s what happened to Edge 14 in Macon, which Felts owned. It was closed in September. Odds are people avoided the theater because the well-known Black Undertow in Macon couldn’t be quiet during the movies. Don't try and be an entrepreneur to the Black Undertow unless you are in the chicken business (like the Tulsa Chicken Hut), or selling crack.

It is Black people – 400 +!!! – who forced the early closing of the Edge 12 movie theater, depriving that business of revenue through ticket and concession sales. Then again, crime in Birmingham is nearly monochromatic.

Worse, Al.com had the audacity to post a story today that discussed the Flash Mob Mahogany Mob phenomenon wrecking havoc across the nation, that was accompanied with pictures and video of white kids dancing for the Salvation Army kettle campaign at the Brookwood Mall in Birmingham.

These white kids were participating in a true Flash Mob, ostensibly trying to raise money through philanthropy that will probably go towards clothing and feeding the very Black kids who forced the closing of Edge 12 on Christmas.

Here’s what the second Al.com article stated:
Flash mobs are in the news again, with reports of a rowdy Mall of America "smash and grab" crowd on Monday and, closer to home, movie goers being sent home early from the Edge 12 Movie Theater in Birmingham on Christmas Day when security and management grew anxious over a group of rowdy young people believed to have been drawn by a Facebook mention of a possible fight.

Some cities have wrestled with trying to find a way to address the chaos such social media-driven events can cause. In Cleveland, the city council passed ordinances earlier this month aimed at curbing them.
The City Council there banned "inciting to riot" and added computers and cellphones to a list of items that can be considered criminal tools when used illegally. Violators may be sentenced to up to six months in jail and fined $1,000.

Critics had blasted a previous effort by the Cleveland panel to outlaw the use of Facebook and Twitter to rally mobs as unconstitutional, unnecessary and difficult to enforce. The ordinances passed this month became law without the signature of Mayor Frank Jackson, who said he didn't think they will make a difference.

[Other articles from Cleveland.com chronicling discussion of the issue there can be found here.]

For years, social media has been used to fuel gatherings that turn out to be beneficial or sinister, entertaining or even philanthropic, such as the November kickoff for the Salvation Army kettle drive in Birmingham, which was billed as a "flash mob" event but might not have met the letter of the definition of the term

All of the stories cited in this story involve (GULP!!!) Black people. It is the Black Undertow that is responsible for the mess in Birmingham, and it is the children of the Black Undertow that forced the early closing of Edge 12.

Birmingham was abandoned to the Black Undertow through massive white flight that created some of the top cities in America like Vestavia Hills, Mountain Brook, and Hoover, where white people rebuilt the town they had just fled.

Black people, who inherited the infrastructure that white people had created, built, and sustained in Birmingham, have turned it into a permanent filming location for the real-life crime/murder show The First 48.

Telling that Al.com published this story today:
Crumbling infrastructure in many of the nation's larger cities such as Birmingham are placing an unsustainable financial burden on populations unable pay for the rebuilding of key systems such as sewer and water, says a new research study from Michigan State University.
The infrastructure of the nation's central cities has reached and passed replacement age just as many core areas now contain populations of largely lower-income minorities already paying more for services than rural and small-city residents.
Along with metro Birmingham, other cities mentioned include Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and St. Louis.
Is there even need to discuss the implications of what Climate Change means to this story? Pittsburgh is one of the nicest places live in America, but money that should be going to public works is diverted to paying for a the permanent underclass that is the Black Undertow.

Cleveland, St. Louis, Birmingham, and Detroit have one thing in common: Black people inherited an existing infrastructure when white people fled the Black Undertow, and they couldn’t sustain it.

In summation, those journalists in America whose job is to inform law-abiding citizens of potential risks to their person, business, and private property have failed us miserably. They aren’t ‘youths’; they are Black people.

The early closing of Edge 12 movie theater in Birmingham on Christmas 2011 was entirely due to Black people (400 + mind you) who engaged in similar actions to Black people around the nation rioting over Air Jordan’s.

Or, the exact same behavior that was on display at the Mall of America.

Yes, Dr. King, your children can go to Funtown now. But because they now can, malls are closing nationwide. So is Edge 12 in Birmingham.

Freedom has failed. It has bankrupted Birmingham; it has made seeing a movie with the family an unpleasant experience at Edge 12; it is simply the tyranny we call Black-Run America (BRA).

Let it be known that the theory stating that only so-called Blue States (those with laws against conceal carry) would be the host of Mahogany Mobs is now dead. Alabama, that reddest of red (well, white) states has now seen a 400 + Black person riot. Another business (like many of the dead malls/strip malls/restaurants/etc.) has its very existence threatened by Black people putting it in the red.

Have we started a fire? No, but the fire rises anyway.

67 comments:

Fayette White Guy said...

I will never understand the black mentality, even after having to deal with them for many years.

Hunter Wallace said...

When you told me about this earlier, I originally didn't get what you were saying because of the misleading image.

+400 blacks riot and the media selects an image of White people dancing!

Such is BRA.

Anonymous said...

A feeble attempt at deflecting the story off of the true participants (criminals) and onto non-involved innocents. IMHO a crime in and of itself.

I remember what it was like being stationed in ROK during the early 70's. The only thing I was afraid of was my black countrymen. You mistakenly wander into their part of town-one of their clubs-or anywhere they congregated and you faced getting badly beaten by them.

Anonymous said...

Violent crime in Seattle is almost exclusively black, even though one of the whitest cities in the USA, it is chock-full of the most naive "progressive" white-guilt libtard DWLs in existence, and their ultra-libtard "progressive racial and social justice" system is based almost exclusively on coddling and kissing black asses! They even rebranded King County after Marchin Looter Koon, plastered MLK's ugly mug on the official King County logo, and painted stupid cheezy hagiographic murals of him all over the courthouse of a place that MLK only spent about 2 1/2 days of his entire life! Meanwhile niggers smoke and sell crack in plain view through the glass doors of the King County courthouse!

http://publicola.com/2011/12/28/man-at-center-of-parole-battle-arrested-for-christmas-day-murder/

Man At Center of Parole Battle Arrested For Christmas Eve Murder

[The nigger in question]:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6188/6095774206_14eb9c2694.jpg

December 28, 2011 at 1:35 pm Jonah Spangenthal-Lee

A parolee previously at the center of a heated dispute between Department of Corrections officials in Washington and Georgia has been arrested for allegedly murdering his girlfriend outside of her Greenwood home on Christmas Eve.

Earlier this year, Department of Corrections officials in Washington battled with authorities in Georgia after the man, identified by police and jail records as Johnnie Lee Wiggins, after he attacked a parole officer at his north Seattle home.

In 2008, Wiggins—a 48-year-old professional bodybuilder—was released from prison in Georgia for an assault charge and put on probation. He petitioned a national parole board to complete his probation in Washington state, where he was supposed to be under state supervision until January 2013.

According to law enforcement sources, Wiggins has prior convictions including theft, assault, and exposing himself in public. Law enforcement records describe Wiggins as “high energy and a smooth operator,” and note that he has had problems with drugs and issues with “sexual deviancy.”

Wiggins stayed out of trouble in Washington, working at a North Seattle gym and living at a nearby studio apartment, until last summer, when he began having problems with his Community Corrections Officer.

According to police records, Wiggins was “uncooperative and intimidating” when his parole officer went to visit him in April, slamming the door in his face and telling him he planned to move to avoid having further contact with D.O.C.

Wiggins attacked a parole officer at his home during a visit in May, and was arrested at Taser-point. When police searched Wiggins’ home, they found illegal steroids.

...

Now, police say Wiggins is responsible for killing his girlfriend after returning to Seattle.

According to police, the victim, a 55-year-old woman, stepped outside her home to talk to her boyfriend, identified by a police source and jail records as Wiggins. Police say several witnesses heard shouting and then a “loud thump.” The woman’s 13-year-old daughter came out of the home and found her mother on the ground outside of the house, and saw Wiggins walking away from her.

Medics and police came to the scene and took the woman to Harborview with a life-threatening head injury. She died the next day, on Christmas.

Seattle police arrested Wiggins Wednesday afternoon and booked him into the King County Jail for homicide.

It’s unclear why Wiggins was back in Seattle after the interstate parole dispute, and whether he served any time in Georgia for violating the terms of his parole.
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Anonymous said...

Washington State's suicidal "progressivism" full steam ahead!

SEATTLE = NIGGER BULLSHIT & DWL NIGGERCODDLERS

http://publicola.com/2011/12/28/early-jolt-historic-majority-minority-district-proposed/

“Historic” Majority-Minority District Proposed

December 28, 2011

Two immediate winners have emerged from this morning’s US Congressional District redistricting proposal: Communities of color and Denny Heck.

Former Republican US Sen. Slade Gorton and former Seattle Deputy Mayor, Democrat Tim Ceis, two of the four redistricting commissioners, presented a proposal this morning revising Washington State’s US Congressional map to both 1) include an additional district, the 10th, to account for Washington’s population growth, and 2) re-mapping the existing districts.

The new 10th District is centered largely in Thurston County, taking in Olympia and Shelton—making Democrat Denny Heck today’s big winner. Heck, who’s from Olympia, had to run in the 3rd Congressional District—Vancouver to Olympia—in 2010, and lost the swing turf battle to Republican Jaime Herrera Beutler. By jettisoning the liberal Olympia area from the 3rd and giving the area its own district, the commission made Heck, the founder of TVW and former chief of staff to ex-Governor Booth Gardner, the frontrunner in a new district, as opposed to a challenger going for a rematch in the swing 3rd.

Washington State Democratic Party Chair Dwight Pelz already released a statement about this morning’s news, namechecking Heck.

The newly drawn 10th District provides Democrats our best opportunity to send a true middle class champion to Congress. We are already on our way with Denny Heck, who will stand up and fight for families, fairness and economic opportunity.

The proposal also made history with the creation of Washington State’s first majority-minority district: The re-drawn 9th Congressional District, stretching from Olympia up through South King County—including Federal Way, Puyallup, and Renton. Democratic US Rep. Adam Smith is the current incumbent.

The Win/Win Network had organized all year, testifying at commission meetings, to get a majority-minority district, though they also wanted one that came without an incumbent. African American lobbyist Nate Miles spoke on behalf of Win/Win at today’s hearing and said of Smith that Win/Win hadn’t been pushing for a majority-minority district to ensure that a person of color would be elected, but that whoever represented the district would have to “fight to win our support.” He said he was confident that Smith would do that.

Anonymous said...

"I will never understand the black mentality, even after having to deal with them for many years."

Blacks are difficult to deal with because they are all too easy to understand. Just see them as little children who are stronger than you.

Anonymous said...

Now Paul Birmingham is 72% black so there is a .28 power 200 that all the 200 involved were white.

Anonymous said...

"Not once does the article have the temerity to call ‘youths’ by the proper term: Black people."

But hey, it had the temerity to identify the restaurant as 'Chinese'.

Playing Roots Backwards said...

Those city ordinances in Cleveland that include cell phones and computers in the list of criminal tools will be short-lived. Those laws will be labelled racist and Jim Crow when only Blacks are arrested for violating them.

So go the days of our lives.

Zenster said...

Crumbling infrastructure in many of the nation's larger cities such as Birmingham are placing an unsustainable financial burden on populations unable pay for the rebuilding of key systems such as sewer and water, says a new research study from Michigan State University. [emphasis added]

A few cholera and typhoid epidemics will sort out those "largely lower-income minorities" who continue to actively run down the infrastructure around them.

Just like how "freedom isn't free", infrastructure doesn't just magically build itself.

Although, given the Black propensity for voodoo, I'm sure that there's more than a few who regard clean water and indoor plumbing as some sort of mysterious White man's "juju". Go ahead, sprinkle around all of the "gris-gris" dust you want but those crumbling sewer pipes aren't going to dig themselves out of the ground.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (December 28, 2011 2:47 PM): But hey, it had the temerity to identify the restaurant as 'Chinese'.

Excellent catch! We can now await an ooking and eeking mob of Asians busting up downtown over this. Or not.

Anonymous said...

Finally, the time is coming to deal with this lunacy once and for all.

As this country continues to deteriorate and be flooded with scum from all of the third world, whitey has nowhere to run.

The federal government now relocates large groups of blacks and other things into once all white sanctuaries, like the stories in Maine which were noted in previous articles here.

Make sure you all understand, there is no where to go that will be safe for long until the hidden hands are prevented from pushing this multicultural nightmare down upon us.

It really is time to draw the line in the sand and fight for it. White flight can no longer save your cowardly butts.

Lily White said...

Now, why do you suppose these news organizations and blogs scramble around to cover up/hide the ethnicity of Mahogany Mobbers? Like Al.com pretending that a picture of white kids dancing represented the story they proceeded to oh-so-carefully report. Hey, Al, the "youths" who were rioting obviously didn't care that people know that they were all black. Why do you?

Ben N Indiana said...

Hunter Wallace . . .

+400 blacks riot and the media selects an image of White people dancing!


Eventually some stupid white kids will imitate mahogany mayhem. THEN the media will notice race. They will say that such behavior 'crosses racial lines'.

W74 said...

That Freedom Failed is a misnomer. A truer statement would be that blacks have failed freedom.

They failed to do anything productive or meaningful once we gave it to them, indeed they destroyed what both we and they once had.


As for good news today I have recruited a fence-sitter into the fold!

One more race realist, one more who has seen the light (a buck and a sheboon having a couple's spat in the middle of the grocery store) when I pointed it out to him. It wasn't simply two people who were arguing, it was blacks: loudly, in public, and seemingly on the brink of violence.

He, like me I discovered, is a college student who is paying his own way. He too knows from previous experience about acceptance and scholarships, about classroom behavior and the lectures shoved down our throats.

One more definitely on board, it is doable guys, and I encourage you to engage complete strangers in "taboo" topics (go gentle at first) ESPECIALLY when there is a blatant example before you of blacks misbehaving. Most Whites I'd say are "fence-sitters", lets help them get boots on the ground over in our camp.

CelticSempai said...

There you have it, the only reason why I don’t go to the movies, aside from the fact that most of it is DWL crap anyway. We have all witnessed the behavior, even with 18 years of MMA experience; I just don’t want to deal with it. The Black Undertow or Gauntlet of Groid permeates everything. Living in NJ outside of Trenton, through the years I have seen Whitopias turned and transformed; malls and stores shuttered, unbelievable destruction and rampant crime. Now I live in bucolic Bucks County…a beautiful Whitopia, but filled with DWL’s who don’t have a clue.

bubo said...

Last Christmas here in Florida a Marine and his wife were attacked by a mob of those "unruly youth" and the attack only ended when a bystander pulled his concealed weapon out and fired it into the air.

I don't go to movies much anyway and never on Christmas as the last time I did I was confronted with a mob of black teens 100 strong. I promptly turned round and took my leave.

AmericanGoy said...

What is the reason for those 400 black "keedz" being there?

A birthday party, a big sale, a new Medea movie, a rapper sighting?

Or was there no reason at all, just cretins acting like cretins?

And why do they choose to put f**king dancing white kids group event when they profile stories of black underage criminals?

And why do I have to pay more and more in taxes for schools in Chicago when NO WHITE KID would be allowed to go to a Chicago Public school unless the parents were insane or the kid had suicidal tendencies?

And why am I asking these rhetorical questions and why am I seething at the lying media, the hipocrisy (he was a good keeeeeeed, did gut in da skooooool, twas an accident he keeel dem five white bois with an ay kay, police be raaaacissss), the venality of the system, the stupidity of this country, the fact that we can do nothing about it as we do not control our government - we have no representation (yet lots of taxation!).

What can we poor white idiots do, other than flee, again and again to our whiteopias, to be overrun and to flee again the free minority housing (for poooor peeeeeple! they neeeedz it more than yu do, you only work 70 hour weeks), the "community hustlers" shaking down companies big and small.

What can we do?

Anonymous said...

What "watershed" moment will it take for the national media to begin honestly talking about this uniquely black problem?

You'd be surprise how many folks I know of all ages who were once DWL's are aware of and talking about this problem but would never dare do so publicly.

Sure, sites like this and Unamusement park are sharp and informed and offer fact-based rebuttals to the normal B.S. about "why" these folks act this way but, you have to admit, they're still on the fringe.

How is it that black violence and social disorder is a running theme in the news every single day in every place they are, yet not a single national figure, journalist, magazine, etc, has the balls to address it?

Zenster said...

Off topic but worth mentioning:

I recently watched the 1991 version of "Bugsy" starring Warren Beatty and Annette Bening. (Free on Hulu.com!)

Not a "magic negro" in sight and nary a tattoo nor piercing to be seen. Men wearing [gasp!] real hats (not baseball caps) and behaving like real, if somewhat rather violent, men. Worth it just to see the late rock impresario, Bill Graham, playing Charlie Luciano.

With my SBPDL edumahcation firmly in tow, it gave me a real appreciation for movies that are not so thoroughly tainted by Hollyweird's obsession with eRace.

Baldowl said...

I saw my first cinema security guard only recently. Soon as I spotted him I thought, This man has a job because of black people.

Anonymous said...

When I saw the headline, I thought this was in England. Blacks have created the same masterpieces in England like they have here in the U.S

JimCrow said...

"In summation, those journalists in America whose job is to inform law-abiding citizens of potential risks to their person, business, and private property have failed us miserably. They aren’t ‘youths’; they are Black people."

Truer words were never spoken,
I love reading your column on a regular basis.
If one can not see through the Media lies by now, they are not paying attention.
I am waiting for someone to comment on the behavior of "black youths" and it is printed in the Media as "youths".
The interviewee should then sue the paper for misrepresenting and misquoting his words to diminish the threat we face.
Probably won't change the status quo, but might make them think twice.
Leaving "profiling" out of it, I would like a workable description of a criminal that may be in my neighborhood, not "male between 20 and 25". That could be just about anyone, for cripes sake!
That is how the Public Enemies were captured, by spreading a "helpful" description.

It is truly a shame that our society, which used to respect those who respect others, has turned into a degenerate cesspool.
The main problem is when you confront them, a fight ensues and one thug and one productive member of society go to jail. On the outside, we've got plenty more thugs to fill the gap, but are running out of civilized humans that care and provide for their families.
Expect the D.Q. (Decency Quotient) to decline much further.

Ms. Evergreen said...

Not all black people act like this. If lil' Evergreen was there he would have tried to stop them. He would have asked what they hoped to accomplish.

Then he would go to all the white store owners and workers, and tell them they have to tolerate this. They could protect themselves and try to avoid blacks. But how would that be good for black people?

Ben N Indiana said...

Baldowl . . .

This man has a job because of black people.


Obamanomics at work. :-)

Ned N Indiana said...

Ms. Evergreen said...

Not all black people act like this.


Guess why black kids in Indiana schools misbehave!

According to a black administrator, it's because the kids are disrespected by White teachers unaware of the ways of black culture.

There is no end to the excuses.

I admire blacks who openly condemn black violence w/o making excuses. Sadly, these are few.

Anonymous said...

AmericanGoy: The catharsis is coming.

It's no different than the stresses that build around fault lines.

When the Big One comes, it's extremely devastating.

Like with Japan.

Mary said...

+400 blacks riot and the media selects an image of White people dancing!

Amazing. And to add to this, just earlier today I discovered that the "santa killer" in Texas, the mass murder on Christmas Day, was in fact an Islamic Honor Killing---but when the original story was posted on the FOX website,days earlier, the picture showed police tape with two little blond girls standing in front of it--it definitely gave the impression the shooter was one of those nutty White guys, yanno ;)
I was actually shocked to find out today it was done by a dark skinned Muslim dressed as Santa.

God help us....

D J said...

I reside in Birmingham, but in city name only. I'm over the border in Shelby County. I still get to pay water bills that are often as high as my electricity bill because we are stuck paying for the shortfall after the sewer bond money disappeared.

Even here, things are starting to darken to a degree that I am finding unacceptable. The 35214 post office is operated by attitudinal negresses who move with the speed of 90 weight oil in a Minnesota February. Help in the restaurants seem to go out of their way to mess up orders. Half of the black help in retail stores is indifferent (although I WILL say the rest are polite, friendly, accurate, and actually seem to like, and want, their jobs).

Were it not for a very good job with a great company, I'd be back up in Nashville. It has its issues like any city but it is not nearly as bad.

I don't have an answer to all this; I wish I did. Meanwhile note that the only time I go to Birmingham itself is to use the airport.

Kylie said...

"A few cholera and typhoid epidemics will sort out those 'largely lower-income minorities' who continue to actively run down the infrastructure around them."

The epidemics might also carry off some of those Nice White Ladies who will rush to nurse the 'people of color' who fall ill.

A twofer to look forward to.

Ben N Indiana said...

PsychologyToday.com published a series of articles today explaining why minority mental illness is the fault of White people.

PsychologyToday.com

• Reinforcing White stereotypes
• Stoking hatred against Whites

Zenster said...

Kylie: The epidemics might also carry off some of those Nice White Ladies who will rush to nurse the 'people of color' who fall ill.

That's awfully mean-spirited of you but hey, guess what? "Mean" is the order of the day.

If Black thugs aren't some of the only competition for Islamic terrorists, please point out the error of my ways. It is becoming increasingly clear that I will have to dedicate an entire essay to the parallels between Black ethnic cleansing of Whites and Islam's own genocidal pursuits.

Back to the topic at hand. As I have been noting of late, awarding "human rights" to those who most seek to deny them is a fool's errand, at best. It is a matter of mistakenly applying human scruples when dealing with those that largely refuse to act human.

That sort of one-way-street always leads straight to hell and "those who can see" are having a road map drawn for them by the BHO administration.

I'll soon be dealing with the rather limited options that currently present themselves to American Whites. This topic will occupy much of the concluding discussion in my new essay, "The Dis-Integration of America". If Paul has not been subjected to other demands, Part I should be posted in less than 48 hours.

To give everyone some idea of how in-depth I am trying to be with this important topic, I'm already working on Part V and I'm not sure if that will be final one.

Everyone's feedback and debate is warmly welcomed as it will be a "give no quarter" approach to race realism in America.

mpresley said...

What "watershed" moment will it take for the national media to begin honestly talking about this uniquely black problem?

The MSM are not pro-white in any sense, so they will never mention Negro behavior unless it is blamed on white folks' discrimination. So don't count on them, ever.

As far as how long it will take the average white person to realize it? That is a big question. As long as whites continue to addictively watch television, enjoy professional sports, and engage Hollywood as their pastimes, it will be difficult to expect any big change.

The influence of our feminized educational system cannot be discounted as an inhibiting factor, along with workplace indoctrination and attendant rules designed to suppress expression. On the other hand, at school and work are where most whites come face to face with Negroes, and it is there that they begin to understand how deficient and dysfunctional they truly are. Once whites experience their own dispossession through Negro affirmative action (by way of grade-inflation at school, and loss of promotional opportunities in the workplace), they begin to understand.

Finally, the negative influence of modern-day Christianity cannot be underestimated. It seems that many Christians see their goal in life as embracing Africa and Africans as an expression of Christian good-will and charity.

Only through personal experience, and then realizing the dissonance between the message presented by media elites and reality, will anyone ever have the potential to change.

In private conversations I try and gently bring up race realism; surprisingly I find that many whites somehow understand the truth, albeit often only in a nascent way. I find that for the most part they have no way to formulate a clear conception of their world: they are under the spell of mass media influence, and are not allowed the opportunity to actually discuss race realism. It is an example of Orwell's Newspeak. If you debase language enough, and control its expression sufficiently, people cannot effectively represent reality to themselves.

~AV~ said...

...got to love Matt Drudge...

his link today tells it like it is...

In DC, black students expelled five times more often than whites...

IF you don't have time to read the story...check out this GRAPH...

All of this supports the LACK of impulse control in social settings...

W74 said...

"In private conversations I try and gently bring up race realism; surprisingly I find that many whites somehow understand the truth, albeit often only in a nascent way. I find that for the most part they have no way to formulate a clear conception of their world: they are under the spell of mass media influence, and are not allowed the opportunity to actually discuss race realism. It is an example of Orwell's Newspeak. If you debase language enough, and control its expression sufficiently, people cannot effectively represent reality to themselves."

mpresley,
Most do. When I used to post frequently on SF I termed these people fence-sitters. They're people who KNOW something is wrong but are either unable to, or too afraid to, put their finger on it.

Three types as far as I can tell:
1. Those who have an inkling things are not right.
2. Those who know there are problems but incorrectly identify the problem as something else
3. Those who know the problem but are too scared (for fear of social backlash for going against 'die-versity') to speak out about the problem.

Most of us have woken up, we've already committed ourselves to the realist camp on one side of the fence. Sadly, many Whites have committed themselves to the degenerate side of the fence, but most are still unsure where there home is. So....bring them home.

While the climate right now precludes speaking of these things at work and such, it's alright to do so at school, at home, in the neighborhood and even with strangers in public. Just be aware of your surroundings. A hint here, a joke there can stir a lot of backed up emotion in a person. Certainly it can get them thinking.

Anonymous said...

"In summation, those journalists in America whose job is to inform law-abiding citizens of potential risks to their person, business, and private property have failed us miserably. They aren’t ‘youths’; they are Black people."


"Journalists" are trained by j-schools. The nation's colleges graduate armies of DWLs and "those who won't see" (until, of course, BRA kills one of theirs).

The roots of this tree are college-indoctrination while public shaming and civil/criminal penalties are it's mighty branches; BRA is the fruit. BRA would collapse in 15 minutes without it.

Notice a common thread? People with normal, moral intuition don't look at crime after crime committed by the same group and say: It's the white man's racism at work -- again! That has to be taught through Pavlovian reinforcement by "wise men" the youth naturally venerate, their professors.

It's the universities. Until that part is tackled and hobbled, little will change. We'll continue to see city after city failing like Birmingham but there will be legions of j-school grads eager to cover for BRA's noxious effects.

Whenever truth is suppressed year after year, it's ultimate and unavoidable emergence results in a catastrophe.

My bet is on the catastrophe, because the university system is so entrenched, and most take their college experience (as Kersey has said) as fundamental to their identity. The net result is either the inability or unwillingness to see anything about the alma mater as worthy of substantive criticism.

Can this be fixed? Can the catastrophe be minimized? I don't have a clue, but my hunch is that this website has a larger function than just "venting".

Kylie said...

"That's awfully mean-spirited of you but hey, guess what? 'Mean' is the order of the day."

Guilty as charged. But blacks and Nice White Ladies nearly always mistake kindness for weakness and their sense of entitlement is boundless.

The road from wanting to link arms around a global campfire and sing "Kumbaya" to SBPDL and looking forward to epidemics was a long, hard one for me during which I was often treated very badly by both groups. That's my own fault, though, for being so darned naive.

Looking forward to your next post, Zenster. Paul's writing is terrifc but he has a lot going on and you have a lot to say (and say it well) so having you as guest poster is a great idea.

Svigor said...

I will never understand the black mentality, even after having to deal with them for many years.

Never been drunk then?

I don't have an answer to all this; I wish I did. Meanwhile note that the only time I go to Birmingham itself is to use the airport.

The problem is an artificial one, created by laws. The solution is simply to remove all the anti-freedom laws we have on the books (usually known under the euphemism, "anti-discrimination laws."). When people have their God-given right to freedom of association back, they can solve the problem themselves at the local level.

Americans need to raise holy hell over these anti-freedom laws. The gov't has no business telling us to whom we may sell our homes, how we choose our employees, or with whom we form contracts, covenants, neighborhoods, churches, or institutions.

The nice thing about this is that proponents can leave race out of it, except insofar as leftoids have made race the issue by using it as a fig leaf in their power grab; it does not take a racist to oppose these anti-freedom laws on principle.

Svigor said...

How is it that black violence and social disorder is a running theme in the news every single day in every place they are, yet not a single national figure, journalist, magazine, etc, has the balls to address it?

I your premise. Pretending the problem doesn't exist is part of the job.

Anonymous said...

Blacks are the only race, group, affliation of people I've ever dealt with that were so completely obnoxious, they had me contemplating violence. They can't talk to each other in anything approaching a reasonable noise level. The girls wear clothing two sizes too small. The boys wear clothing three sizes too big. They are so full of entitlement, and atitutude, stupidity, irrationality, stubborness, I found myself wanting to slap the sh!t out of them. NO finer feelings, NO ability to think deeply, NO ability to exert themselves for anything save the playing of basketball or finding some new person to screw. DWL's should be forced to spend a day locked in a room with twenty teenaged black females. Preferrably overweight black females. If they survived the experience, it might open their eyes.
When I think of 400+ shoggoths like the girls I had to watch running wild through the parking lot of that theatre, I want to get my concealed carry permit right now!

Anonymous said...

Black people ruin much but don't run anything.

The media, news, entertainment, finance and politics are in the hands of... wait a minute: it can't be said, not even here. Oh well, back to David Duke.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (December 28, 2011 5:03 PM): What "watershed" moment will it take for the national media to begin honestly talking about this uniquely black problem?

Easy. Something akin to what happened in Norway. You had better believe that pro-immigration Liberal politicians in Norway are rethinking the wisdom of unleashing a horde of Muslim savages on their society. The next time such matters come up for a vote, they most definitely will not vote unhesitatingly for it.

Same thing over here. When Mahogany Mobs set a couple of news vans on fire with their entire crews inside being burned alive, maybe then people in the media will blink. Or maybe it will require the gang rape of some prominent newscaster's daughter.

The media's charade will end. If not at the hands of Black thugs, then some variant of Anders Breivik will intervene. With every passing day the MSM empowers BRA and Balck thuggery whilst simultaneously placing at risk an increasingly enraged White America.

This is a recipe for disaster and it is only a matter of time. Berivik was one of the first to hang a price tag on this betrayal of race. He will not be the last.

Side Note: Notice how Norway's justice system has declared Breivik insane rather than put him on trial where his agenda would get massive prime time coverage?

Fayette White Guy said...

LOL yeah I've been drunk (although surprisingly little given family history), but have never felt the need to rape, rob, or murder. For me, being inebriated just makes me more social.

~AV~ said...

@W74

the crippling disorder of "white guilt" has been artfully created and delivered to the masses through:

*public schools
*higher education
*marketing (commercials/printed ads)
*television programming
*liberal media ignoring the facts in news accounts

This white guilt will remain until a person has real life experinces OUTSIDE of the clutches of the education unions, liberal professors, and the mass media who feel entitled to act on the behalf of the government to "calming the masses" with mind rot entertainment.

The more we are FORCED to deal with thankless surly blacks who are employed by the government to molest our sensibilities...more the inner anger of whites will brew...

THINK TSA...

YOU and I know...when a buck or she-boon is patting down a loved one, or yourself...they and we KNOW they are violating our personal space and liberties.

THEY dig the power!

And we are supposed to FEEL guilty about being white and NOT enjoying a black pawing us.

I gave up my white guilt a long ass time ago...and I am happy, I am in the company of people who have as well.

The only operational equation for RACISM to survive is:

"Black Rage" + "White Guilt" = "Artifically Manufactured Racism"

Remove the "white guilt"...not much left, except the raw facts that blacks are full of rage...

Caiden said...

I hope this isn't considering to much of a threadjacking offense, but on Yahoo News there is an article titled '2 Doctors Without Borders workers shot in Somalia'. One of the local Somalians was shot and killed by an ex-employee they recently fired.

What's interesting is most of the comments are from people poiting out it's stupid for the Drs to go to such places as Somalia when it's such a hellhole, and many of these people are blaming the Somalians themselves instead of evil white imperialists.
There are still those who make excuses, it's just good to see a small story like this brings out people willing to bring up the topic of blacks being unable to govern themselves and whites having to suffer trying to help them act like humans.

If posting things like this is against the rules please let me know, while it's not as off topic as "It's my Birthday!!!" type post it's not about the blacks rioting because they love those Medea movies.

Zenster said...

mpresley: Finally, the negative influence of modern-day Christianity cannot be underestimated. It seems that many Christians see their goal in life as embracing Africa and Africans as an expression of Christian good-will and charity.

A good portion of the problem can be traced to a pair of misapplied practices. The first being Christian universalism. As I noted earlier, extending "human rights" to inhumane brutes who only wish to rob and rape is an exercise in futility. Evidently, modern Christians consider demonstrating Christ's values to those who nearly embody the Antichrist as being a supreme gesture of piety. They may as well be casting premium seed on salted earth for all the success to be had from it.

We frequently see this in the form of Liberals who sacrifice their own offspring on the altar of Progressivism when they get their child's corpse back from Africa.

Similarly, there is also the practice of Competitive Altruism where the ultimate in self-sacrifice involves giving "until it hurts" to those who are least likely to reciprocate. This ignores the basic fact that altruism without reciprocity amounts to nothing more than exploitation and rapidly begins to smack of sanctimonious one-upmanship. It is rather doubtful that Christ would have shown much tolerance for those who willingly exploit the kindness of others.

I find that for the most part they have no way to formulate a clear conception of their world: they are under the spell of mass media influence, and are not allowed the opportunity to actually discuss race realism. It is an example of Orwell's Newspeak. If you debase language enough, and control its expression sufficiently, people cannot effectively represent reality to themselves.

You could not be more right and I have been making the same arguments here at SBPDL for some time now. Through Politically Correct speech (i.e., Newspeak), the MSM and BRA are stripping our vocabulary of the linguistic components required for Free Thought (i.e., Crimethink). As usual I will supply the link to Orwell's own dissertation on this subject, "The Principles of Newspeak".

To give a single example - The word free still existed in Newspeak, but could only be used in such statements as "The dog is free from lice" or "This field is free from weeds." It could not be used in its old sense of "politically free" or "intellectually free," since political and intellectual freedom no longer existed even as concepts, and were therefore of necessity nameless. Quite apart from the suppression of definitely heretical words, reduction of vocabulary was regarded as an end in itself, and no word that could be dispenses with was allowed to survive. Newspeak was designed not to extend but to diminish the range of thought, and this purpose was indirectly assisted by cutting the choice of words down to a minimum.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (December 29, 2011 8:48 AM): It's the universities. Until that part is tackled and hobbled, little will change. We'll continue to see city after city failing like Birmingham but there will be legions of j-school grads eager to cover for BRA's noxious effects.

Quite right, academia is shot through with Cultural Marxism and is a prime mover in the destruction of White culture.

Consider this quote by Oslo-based Professor Thomas Hylland Eriksen

“Our greatest challenge is to deconstruct them [Europeans], and we must deconstruct them so thoroughly so that they may never be able to call themselves a majority again.”

This sleaze bag is White and seeks nothing less than the destruction of Europe! If you ever wonder exactly who Anders Breivik was fighting, look no further.

My bet is on the catastrophe, because the university system is so entrenched, and most take their college experience (as Kersey has said) as fundamental to their identity. The net result is either the inability or unwillingness to see anything about the alma mater as worthy of substantive criticism.

Can this be fixed?


It is already fixing itself. Universities are churning out such totally irrational drones that they aren't of much use to many employers. The is especially so with all the history and language majors.

To give you an idea of how bad things are: The total student loan debt exceeds all American credit card debt.

Can the catastrophe be minimized?

Only through "subversive" education. Think: samizdat.

I don't have a clue, but my hunch is that this website has a larger function than just "venting".

This is something that Paul probably discovered a while back and played a principal role in SBPDL no longer being a "joke" and, instead, turning into a full-fledged web site.

W74 said...

Caiden,
You brought up news articles and how there have been changes in what people say in the comments.

You're right. I've noticed it too...and participated. Check out USA Today, CBS Local (pick your town, or any with a groid problem), Reddit, or anywhere else not moderated (either heavily or at all).

The change is there. There are a few archetypes posting:
1. The angry groid/DWL upset that type three posters have noticed what the problem is (posts generally incoherent, all caps, short, and ironically just as offensive).
2. People very eloquently still making excuses (guilting Whites, and/or blaming the problem on something else) and using shaming language to admonish type three posters.
3. Those who have woken up.

Keep posting. Also, sometimes it's better to wade into enemy territory than to stay in the rear with like-minded folks.

...Time to shower and work. Will check back around midnight I suppose.

W74 said...

AV,
Yeah, I abandoned my guilt long ago, but I think the precursur to that was because I have always been proud of my herritage and my family. When one respects their parents or like me growing up with an amazing grandfather, uncles, aunts and cousins, it's hard not to go against your own herritage.

Perhaps the kids these days who ascribe to négro culture never had a base identity growing up, or that they learned too early on that who and where they came from is "evil".

So....if you see White kids dressing like a wigger, acting black or listening to rap music, remind them of who they are. I guarantee some will get the hint and will wake up knowing they're welcome back in our wondrous camp.

Californian said...

The infrastructure of the nation's central cities has reached and passed replacement age just as many core areas now contain populations of largely lower-income minorities already paying more for services than rural and small-city residents.

Very similar to the ways in which infrastructure deteriorates in black-majority-one-man-one-vote countries in Africa.

As for "lower income minorities," how much of this is owing to their own behaviors:
* illegitimacy rates, leading to succeeding generations of welfare dependency.
* school drop out rates, making it difficult to secure higher paying jobs.
* criminality rates, leading to minorities being "over-represented" in prison.
* failure to take advantage of opportunities provides by minority grants, corporate foundations, and everything else under the sun which redistributes wealth in their direction.


When I think of 400+ shoggoths ...

Well, things are getting pretty Lovecraftian these decadent days.

Anonymous said...

Yet, the MSM spends millions on focus groups and think tanks trying to figure out why their "operation mockingbird" propaganda campaigns are failing and why many, many whites have turned away from the lies written in their papers or voiced on their networks and instead turned to the alternative media to get the truth--like this site and others like it.

Even the slick liars had to have realized that eventually their house of cards would crumble, but either they fully succumbed to believing their own lies or fear the consequences of deviating from the party line that they all keep the charade going.

Like has been pointed out here and elsewhere on sites like this, every sing media mogul and the scum who work for them peddling the lies the shove down America's throat, every single one of them from top to bottom live far away from the black and brown masses--even those that are black or brown themselves!

It amazes me that the media continues to use the term "youths" when by doing so they becoming bigger and bigger jokes by doing so.

Here's a great video which tells the truth; a MUST watch:

The Vice Guide To Travel - Liberia - Part 1 (watch all clips!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQSjyYRTDVM&ob=av3e

Anonymous said...

"This man has a job because of black people."

Actually, consider that the whole security guard mentality really exploded AFTER the so-called "civil rights struggle" in the 1960s. it was pretty rare to see SGs in the 1950s and early 60s. But in the 1970s and on, it seems that SGs started being posted everywhere because of the constant threat of Feral "youths."

mpresley said...

Mr Zenster: A good portion of the problem can be traced to a pair of misapplied practices. The first being Christian universalism.

To amplify on your insight, I'd like to briefly quote from Carl Schmitt's Concept of the Political (Ch 3):

"As German and other languages do not distinguish between the private and political enemy, many misconceptions and falsifications are possible. The often quoted “Love your enemies” (Matt. 5.44; Luke 6.27) reads diligite inimicos vestros, and not diligite hostes vestros. No mention is made of the political enemy. Never in the thousand year struggle between Christians and Moslems did it occur to a Christian to surrender rather than defend Europe out of love toward the Sracens or Turks. ...It certainly does not mean that one should love and support the enemies of one's own people."

At this stage of the game, Negroes are the white man's “political” enemy in Dr. Schmitt's meaning of the term [that is, the ones with whom we fight with publicly]. To show Christian love toward them in the traditional sense is therefore misplaced, and in any case will destroy whatever form of Christianity is misapplied toward them.

Unknown said...

This is the best blog ever on these issues. We can reach many more people by also commenting on the original newspaper stories and mentioning this site. I am sure there are millions more of us who are fed up and want to do more. Keep up the great work Paul.

make it rain TRUTH said...

What's going to be a watershed moment to bring this down?

I don't have an answer.

Look at South Africa. Openly black racism is ingrained in every facet of the government. Completely opposite of the "evil" Apartheid that was so vigorously protested by DWLs throughout the world.

Crime there is sky high, nearly 100% black. Whites are murdered in their homes by roving black bandits. Chased off their property or their jobs by crushing black racism.

And who even talks about the place outside of Ilana Mercer or Those Who Can See?

I do agree we need to repeal laws that infringe upon individual freedom (CRA). But that's never going to happen. Rand Paul talked about it from the "liberty" perspective, and it wasn't enough to prevent the non-thinkers from spouting "RACISM!!!" He beat a hasty retreat on that one. As do most politicos when the word "RACISM" is bandied about.

Unamusement Park had a nice post recently about playing the angle that "I don't know if it's racist.. but is it true?" Maybe that mindset can take hold and help beat back the barbarians at the gate.

Discard said...

W74 @ 12:38 PM, Dec 29: Many Whites today have no culture. What they have instead is a Hollywood-manufactured set of notions that change with the needs of the ruling regime. People who grew up in the USSR understand this immediately when it's pointed out.

Discard said...

When I was a schoolteacher, I noticed an exceptionally bright Mexican girl who was perpetually frustrated by her inability to say what she meant. She had the mind of an 18 year old when she was 13, but had only the vocabulary you'd expect of a 13 year old child of uneducated immigrants. She knew that things didn't make sense, but hadn't the mental tools to even ask questions.
When I first read Orwell on the purpose of Newspeak, that girl came to mind. Imagine, a hundred million Whites living in BRA, yet without the simple words to describe what they see. "Nigger" is a blunt and inexact word, but far more descriptive than "youth" or "urban" or even "Black", or any of the other evasions most people use.

Anonymous said...

Good job Paul getting on their website and telling the truth. Funny they really do turn a blind eye or act like it's some made up conspriacy theory and crime has no color

Caiden said...

W74,

The first time I noticed the anger on 'regular' news sites was a few months ago. A white women in MN I think was attacked along with her daughter by a pack of she-apes.

I don't think I'm misrembering but I'd say a good 95% were people talking about their anger at blacks. This was during the time when whites were putting 2 and 2 together so many times they were getting 400 and realized black flash mobs were doing more then staging random dance scenes from 60s musicals and were attacking whites.

I was making several statements and checking back every few hours to post. After the story had been up for a maybe 2 days the comments section was closed.


Surprisingly that doesn't happen as much now as I think it would now adays. I didn't read all the comments on hte HuffPost article about the chimpout at MOA but surpised to many were upset with blacks. And the Huffpost is basically Marxist online central.

Anonymous said...

Owner Marty Felts...


Ahh, the MacFelts - kindest, genltlest folk you'll encounter thus side of Ulster.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer man...

kev said...

CALIFORNIAN:
illegitimacy rates, leading to succeeding generations of welfare dependency.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gee...like 3 in 4 blacks born to single moms?
And with divorce...how few are blacks that have both parents to even age 14?

Californian said...

Gee...like 3 in 4 blacks born to single moms?
And with divorce...how few are blacks that have both parents to even age 14?


Yep.

Criminal justice stats and anecdotal evidence say that single parented households, especially when female run, will have children that are more likely to be involved in crime, drop out of school, go into welfare dependency, etc., etc.

So why then has society not done anything about this? Does it fly in the face of too many liberal shibboleths about sexual revolution and the family as being the centerpiece of oppression? Or is this an intended consequence...wreck the family, create generations of dependent single parents and out of control children, all the more easy to manipulate, and serve as a permanent serf class for the expanding managerial state?

Actually, consider that the whole security guard mentality really exploded AFTER the so-called "civil rights struggle"

Yes, and we might also note the expansion of paramilitary policing in recent decades. And much of this is in response to the explosion of urban gangs whose members seem to be made up largely of minorities. The liberal formula of civil rights + welfare state + academic indoctrination has led to increasing societal disintegration. So now the USA needs domestic armies to preserve a minimum of public order.

But no one seems to make the connection, at least not until the Internet has allowed discussion on these topics.

Zenster said...

Off Topic but interesting.

Californian: Well, things are getting pretty Lovecraftian these decadent days.

If you enjoy good old H.P., then please consider investigating the works of Clark Ashton Smith. A native Californian himself, Lovecraft so admired Smith's works that a high priest in one of his stories is named, "Klar-Kash-Ton".

Search eBay or Amazon and find yourself a copy of "The City of the Singing Flame". Some of its passages are, literally, psychedelic.

Smith had an unrivaled ability to elicit the macabre without all the modern slasher blood and guts. In the same genre is William Hope Hodgson whose, "House on the Borderland" (free eBook) is a timeless classic and was one of Lovecraft's favorite works.

For a quicker taste of his yarn-spinning abilities, read the online copy of "A Voice in the Night". I stumbled across this foreboding short story in a compilation by Alfred Hitchcock titled, "Stories They Wouldn't Let Me do on Television".

A few other early fantasy writers of note are:

Lord Dunsany
William Morris
August Derleth
H Rider Haggard
Lin Carter
Edmond Hamilton (early Sci-Fi)

Zenster said...

mpresley: To amplify on your insight…

Which you did quite impressively. Please do not hesitate to do so in the future. Thank you.

Zenster said...

Caiden: This was during the time when whites were putting 2 and 2 together so many times they were getting 400…

Boy howdy! Those are some extremely large values of two.

Californian said...

Zenster: thanks for posting the pulp fiction references. I've had a more than passing interesting in that era, especially Robert E. Howard and H. P. Lovecraft. Their works are shot through with cultural significance. Howard seems to have seen the world on the verge of a descent into barbarism, with but a few stalwart Men of the West holding back the tide. Especially interesting is his essay on the end of his Hyborian world, in which the Fall of Civilization.

Andymon said...

On December 31, 2011 5:54 AM
Zenster said...

If you enjoy good old H.P.L., then please consider investigating the works of Clark Ashton Smith. Smith had an unrivaled ability to elicit the macabre without all the modern slasher blood and guts. In the same genre is William Hope Hodgson whose, "House on the Borderland" (free eBook) is a timeless classic and was one of Lovecraft's favorite works.

His Carnacki the Ghost stories are also worth looking up, as is the quintessential English ghost story crafter M.R. James.