Monday, July 30, 2012

Weaponized Equality

PK Note: Forgot to publicize this exclusive post over at Vdare on the Chick-Fil-A, Coca-Cola, and Cobb County. The battle was over long ago; but the war is just about to begin.

It dawned on me reading Lawrence Auster's piece, The next frontier—racially equal outcomes in school discipline, that we are witnessing the "last gasp of the Harvard establishment."

Equality has been weaponized, jeopardizing the health of students and classrooms across America -- all in the name of the continued promotion of Black-Run America (BRA). Last year we wrote the Department of Education and the state of Michigan's war on - well - nature with the entry Black Privilege articulated in One Article: Grand Rapids Public Schools punished for punishing Black Students Disproportionately. We wrote:
That school systems are now punished for punishing Black students that act out in class because they can’t follow the same rules that white and Asians students have no problem following is a cause for federal involvement. 
Never mind that in such diverse geographic areas as Charlotte, Seattle, Chicago, and Delaware that the one constant variable in school discipline is a propensity for Black students to be overly represented in those suspended.

This could never explain why the proficiency of Black male students was found to be much lower than anticipated, right?

The federal government will soon require every school system to be cognizant of Black student’s proclivities for not abiding by the rules governing proper behavior. Their rebellion will be a state-sanctioned form of self-expression.
Now, The Daily Caller reminds of just how far the idea of "Black Privilege" has come in a year (Obama backs race-based school discipline policies, Neil Munro, July 27, 2012):
President Barack Obama is backing a controversial campaign by progressives to regulate schools’ disciplinary actions so that members of major racial and ethnic groups are penalized at equal rates, regardless of individuals’ behavior.
His July 26 executive order established a government panel to promote “a positive school climate that does not rely on methods that result in disparate use of disciplinary tools.”
“African Americans lack equal access to highly effective teachers and principals, safe schools, and challenging college-preparatory classes, and they disproportionately experience school discipline,” said the order, titled “White House Initiative On Educational Excellence.”
Because of those causes, the report suggests, “over a third of African American students do not graduate from high school on time with a regular high school diploma, and only four percent of African American high school graduates interested in college are college-ready across a range of subjects.”
“What this means is that whites and Asians will get suspended for things that blacks don’t get suspended for,” because school officials will try to level punishments despite groups’ different infraction rates, predicted Hans Bader, a counsel at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Bader is a former official in the Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights, and has sued and represented school districts and colleges in civil-rights cases.
“It is too bad that the president has chosen to set up a new bureaucracy with a focus on one particular racial group, to the exclusion of all others,” said Roger Clegg, the president of the Center for Equal Opportunity.
“A disproportionate share of crimes are committed by African Americans, and they are disproportionately likely to misbehave in school… [because] more than 7 out of 10 African Americans (72.5 percent) are born out of wedlock… versus fewer than 3 out of 10 whites,” he said in a statement to The Daily Caller. Although ” you won’t see it mentioned in the Executive Order… there is an obvious connection between these [marriage] numbers and how each group is doing educationally, economically, criminally,” he said.
The order created a “President’s Advisory Commission on Educational Excellence for African Americans.” It will include senior officials from several federal agencies — including the Departments of Education, Justice and Labor — which have gained increased power over state education policies since 2009.
The progressives campaign for race-based discipline policies also won a victory in Maryland July 24.
The state’s board of education established a policy demanding that each racial or ethnic group receive roughly proportional level of school penalties, regardless of the behavior by members of each group.
The board’s decision requires that “the state’s 24 school systems track data to ensure that minority and special education students are not unduly affected by suspensions, expulsions and other disciplinary measures,” said a July 25 Washington Post report.
“Disparities would have to be reduced within a year and eliminated within three years,” according to the Post.
The state’s new racial policy was welcomed by progressives, including Judith Browne Dianis, a director of the D.C.-based Advancement Project. “Maryland’s proposal is on the cutting edge,” she told the Post.
Dianis’ project is also a law firm that litigates race-related questions, and it gains from laws and regulations that spur race-related legal disputes.
“The combination of overly harsh school policies … has created a ‘schoolhouse-to-jailhouse track,’ in which punitive measures such as suspensions, expulsions, and school-based arrests are increasingly used to deal with student misbehavior,” claimed the group’s website.
This “is a racial justice crisis, because the students pushed out through harsh discipline are disproportionately students of color,” the group insisted.
The administration had previously advertised its support for the campaign to impose race-based discipline policies.
In February, Attorney General Eric Holder claimed that “we’ve often seen that students of color, students from disadvantaged backgrounds, and students with special needs are disproportionately likely to be suspended or expelled.”
“This is, quite simply, unacceptable. … These unnecessary and destructive policies must be changed,” he said in his speech, given in Atlanta, Ga.
Weaponized Equality. If you can't close the racial gap in achievement with billions, trillions, perhaps quadrillions (toss in the opportunity costs wasted over the past fifty years, that dollar amount adds up quick) of dollars and man-hours in labor attempting to teach the unteachable, perhaps, just perhaps the only way to obtain educational equality is to stunt white students development by realizing that merely their showing up to school dripping with "white privilege" is a cause for disciplinary actions in BRA.


109 comments:

Anonymous said...

I hate BRA. When will the masses wake up? It's sickening . . .

Anonymous said...

Please pass this along, it must be shown to all. This is why things will not change.

"Police brutality worse than Rodney King"

http://www.theluzernecountyrailroad.com/police-brutality.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5eOknaXgYU&feature=player_embedded

MuayTyson said...

If you have children pull them immediately from public schools. Any school with a black or hispanic population will now be a war zone and more dangerous for White or Asian students.

Imagine a school with just a ten percent NAM population as soon as the suspensions and expulsions stop the acts will become bolder. This will be worse than the Flash Mob events in fact it will increase Flash Mobs. When these little sub-humans realize that they will not be held responsible for any of their actions the damn will break and in spectacular fashion.

The soft war is at an end. It is now open warfare against the majority population. Time is short to prevent more violence if not now then violence will be the only alternative.

AM said...

This is only the beginning. A trial balloon, perhaps. BRA is about to get into high gear.

AM said...

Obama keeps giving it to the White man up the ass and we just keep taking it. What have we become?

Anonymous said...

Hey Paul

in Dayton, Ohio there was a shootout over a Sippy-Cup.

Usually suspects too.

Youtube Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjwCVnDW7JU

Link: http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/local/montgomery/man-shot-after-sippy-cup-argument

Jay Santos said...

PK Note: Forgot to publicize this exclusive post over at Vdare on the Chick-Fil-A, Coca-Cola, and Cobb County. The battle was over long ago; but the war is just about to begin.

Really? The war? The vast majority of modern American males have no capacity for literal or figurative war. Something as strenuous as protecting their family might interfere with watching football and playing golf.

You are dreaming PK.

Anonymous said...

"just perhaps the only way to obtain educational equality is to stunt white students"

Just prior to stopping by to read this post I was thinking about a horrible possibility that the left would employ when this newest effort fails, as it most assuredly will.

Mandatory partial lobotomies for whites and Asians so as to equalize the playing field.

Don't laugh and don't think this hasn't been concocted by the delusional minds on the left already. Of course, they themselves being exempted from this new scheme, you can bet on that!

Since the deliberate dumbing down of whites has not equalized the playing field with blacks after all their efforts in the past 5 decades, and the 5 decades of wasted effort on trying every imaginable way of civilizing and educating Negroes simultaneously failing-what is left for them to do?

Seriously, this will be their final solution to the problem. Lobotomies for all those with IQs above 75.

Never will those lefties look at the other alternatives, repatriation to Africa(to South Africa in exchange for white Afrikaners) or total segregation.

Since the late 80's I have desperately tried to float the idea that sending blacks to South Africa in exchange for the whites there would be the best option possible, if only people would have listened and not laughed me out of the park.

No one could say that we were sending them into some hell-hole, they were going to get a complete 1st world country to go to where they would be in complete control.

Unfortunately, since the end of Apartheid, South Africa has quickly descended into a hellhole so blacks here in America may not be so sweet on the deal.

So, segregation is the one and only viable option and the one which must be adopted soon before we go down the Rhodesian path.

The current path we are on is no laughing matter and those that chuckled and mocked me in the past are no longer so full of their vile smugness. We must take action soon and one way or another there will be a breaking point if nothing is done.

We have two other options: we can re-segregate as peacefully as possible soon, or re-segregate after much bloodshed and death later.

Anonymous said...

Ex New Yorker here...Next this policy will be used on the streets. Crime and NO PUNISHMENT. Murder and rape will be allowed because the "poor person" had a "bad home life" and lost out on the chance to succeed. Just because an innocent black person got caught robbing and raping does not mean he should go to prison. It is not his fault that his neighborhood is filled with drugs, whores, pimps, rapist, killers and gang bangers. If Leroy gets arrested for murder he should only get 30 days at a rehab camp and then let loose back on the streets. Prison would be a cruel and harsh form of punishment.
The next thing they will do is outlaw use of the word CRIME. It is a word that is racist. Also the words RAPE, ROBBERY and MURDER will be politically incorrect. The right terms will be words like "an event" or "a happening" or "an incident." The newscasters will use phrases like "mob-event". "Two people are dead after a "happening" on Martin Luther King Avenue today. A woman is in the hospital after an "incident" in her home last night. An "event" took place today at the Jesse Jackson Savings and Loan and some money was found missing."
I am so glad I don't have to live around black people any more. New York City was enough for me.

Andrea Ostrov Letania said...

Affirmative discipline. But most school teachers and administrators are liberal. They be racis' too?

But then, this is a nation where illegals are favored over citizens.

I guess Obama is so used to getting special treatment that he thinks all blacks are entitled to the same. OK, how about putting his girls in the same schools with them black kids?

Btw, would Obama say black flash mobs should be treated like customers?

http://www.dailykenn.com/tv

I have a solution.. When blacks rob and kill, media tell us the perpetrators are 'teens' and 'youths'.

So, how about we pretend that 'teens' and not blacks are the ones who are being disciplined more?

Discard said...

I suppose that there will be particular offenses that will be used to even up the punishment rates, things that Whites are more likely to do. Things like sloppy homework. Since Blacks don't do homework at all, the penalties will fall on Whites. Or maybe asking serious questions, since most Blacks are incapable of that.

More productively, single out any lawyers' kids for discipline, particularly if they have Obama stickers on their cars. Let them sue, and collect from the Feds.

Of course, schools with lots of Darks have learned to excel at lying. Perhaps they can simply claim to suspend White kids, document them as absent on those days, and go about their business.

Best solution: Tell the White parents why you're persecuting their kids, and tell them to call their Congressman.

This country goes more nutcase Maoist every week. The grapes of wrath are ripening.

Anonymous said...

In order to achieve "equal" levels of punishment, white kids will have to be suspended for spitting on the floor or some other "crime." That way, blacks and the DWL's can then say, "See! White kids is bad too! Dey gets suspended and expelled at the same rates as blacks!"
This, of course, will ignore that Devarious and all his cousins were suspended for robbery, theft, assault and battery and other far more serious crimes.
This is not about justice, equality or fairness~ this is about "image." Blacks don't care if their precious little nigglets commit far more serious crimes deserving of punishment~ they only care that this is exposed and the image presented is bad. Rather than cleaning up their act, they'd rather hide the facts under a mountain of propaganda about how "whites done be doing it too!" They want to be able to point to statistics that "prove" this while conveniently ignoring the breakdown of what crimes/offenses were committed and by whom.
Sorry niggers~ it won't work. We already know what you are and your image is eternally tarnished by your own hideous behavior.

So CAL Snowman said...

Any way the cookie crumbles this policy will fail. IF they stop disciplining the little black future astronauts, anarchy will reign supreme in the class. Likewise if they start suspending the whites and asians for trivial non sense those parents are going to go ballistic and demand answers. It's a lose/lose situation, much like EVERYTHING the psycho lefties do!

"Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad."

HalfElf said...

Who thinks "equal oppotunity" can result in "equal results"?. I am 5'6", does that mean the NBA are coming out with a affirmative acction program for vertically challenged caucasins? The saw "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" really does apply here.

Anonymous said...

This is the end, my only friend the end...
Jim Morrison

HalfElf said...

Who thinks "equal oppotunity" can result in "equal results"?. I am 5'6", does that mean the NBA are coming out with a affirmative acction program for vertically challenged caucasins? The saw "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" really does apply here.

Anonymous said...

Secession. Now. Today. Forever.

The Non-Whites are idiots, both genetically and ideologically. Nothing we haven't known for sixty years; this just proves it, with our 'post-racial Prez.'

It's time to put a fork in it- the BRA is DONE.

- Fr. John+
www.thewhitechrist.wordpress.com

Anonymous said...

Anger at disproportionate discipline I understand, but "access to quality teachers" and other complaints along the same line is something for which I don't have much sympathy. Teachers are not utilities, and if a student demonstrates insufficient respect or is grossly unprepared remedial work is indicated before access to higher levels of consultation should occur. Everything considered this budding weaponized equality movement implies a lack of confidence in the school system is appropriate when actually the students are lacking, simply put. A school which is not run on the merit system is not a school at all. The purpose of education is to sort and catagorize student achievement. If that goal is lost one may as well randomize grades themselves. A sinister comedian might suggest that is the goal of post-modern education; for by so doing no one's feelings are hurt. The end user ( society at large ) might be let down but that hurt feeling can be addressed by further programs, such as Socialism.

Anonymous said...

Hilarious. This is pretty much going to be the death blow for public education in a lot of urban areas.

Keep in mind that austerity IS coming to America. Obama may be able to win in 2012 but he can't stop the absolutely overwhelming financial tidal wave that the unwinding of this 30+ year debt cycle is about to bring. Spain in 2012 is US in 2014 (or so) and it only gets worse from there for both. Those teachers union salaries and pensions WILL be dismantled when municipalities begin going insolvent and even dissolving themselves across the country. The end result will be the de facto end of public education in a lot of places as truancy becomes impossible to prevent, discipline becomes politicized and the Baby Boomer generation of teachers retires only to be replaced by ... no one (that actually "cares").

And when major urban school districts begin totally collapsing (both financially and in terms of academic metrics) they'll blame conservatives, call for higher taxes, and label anyone who takes their children out of the failing school systems as racists.

They're going to ride the "equality lie" til the wheels come off, so hang on folks. They're not going to give up. They'll see the country bankrupted, urban areas in chaos and political systems totally corrupted before they'll admit to the failures of Black-Run America and the reasons that underlie those historic failures. They'll normalize and justify homicide using cultural relativism and sob-stories about bad childhoods if they have to.

Reactions and counter-reactions though. Traditional private and religious education is going to explode, especially in the suburban areas ringing Southern and Northeastern cities. Highly selective, avante-garde non-profit-model private education will explode in the parts of the country where DWLs have pacified Blacks through financial counter-insurgency (think Bay Area, Austin, Seattle).

The Dept. of Education claims 99% literacy in the US. Yet a nonprofit study indicated that a majority of Detroit Public Schools' GRADUATES are "functionally illiterate" (know the alphabet and basic phonetics but read and write at a very elementary level). Keep in mind how many DPS students never graduate. With that in mind, what % of the US do you think is actually literate vs functionally illiterate? It can't be 99% / 1%, that is absurd. It's a serious question too. I'm sure you all have witty answers but when you think about how real this is and you begin to quantify real statistics like this so you can cut through the government propaganda, you start winning minds.

Anonymous said...

(N.GA)- I stopped by a local dollar general store to grab a few items to put back in my “just in case pile” today. A young black couple, late teens, had a baby in the cart, were just strolling around eyeing the goods. I even gave the the ol' boy a second thought, at least he was there with the girl and kid, for now anyway.

I over heard the young mother (not because I wanted to, but because they talk so loud you have no choice but to hear) ask the ol' boy “what do you want to eat tonight?” That just put a smile on my face. I'm just stopping by to drop a $20, because I have that extra, and what better to spend it on than some stash goods for a rainy day. My cabinets are almost full. My freezer is well stocked and the fridge is stocked good enough (We have the recommended one year, bare minimum, supply of assorted dried and caned goods for the wife, daughter and myself. Our property has a spring that comes out of the ground on location. All for the big “ just in case”

My point is, this young couple does not even know what they are going to eat tonight. Can't think that far ahead. Going to the market for that daily supply that, in this day and time, might not be there tomorrow. This out fit will be hunting me and mine if anything ever happens. I have no delusions about that. I am being aware with great caution in mind. These are bad times, people, please put back and prepare at least the minimum of supply's. The stores only hold three days worth of goods if a tragedy happens. If nothing goes wrong, you can always eat your goods. You do not loose in this situation. There's nothing wrong with buying a little extra when you go shopping. Lets take the time and learn from Katrina.

MrGJG said...

White/Asian kid talks out of turn = Black kid punching teacher in face.

That sounds fair.

Anonymous said...

Then call the police on the perps. Solves both problems of disproportionate levels of discipline. The school then isn't suspending the animals and the animals get to see what their future beholds.

i'm all white! how about you? said...

all the young black children very soon won't have to show up at school to earn their grades! another reason why we should be segregated now and forever. this piss poor race will never comply with our society and it's stated rules. i'm so sick and tired of these blacks that have to be held by their hands at all times. my fellow whites just think of a society that is all white living around you. man i sure can! i could go on forever and i usually do but i dream about that society. just think of all the positive things that would come out of our whites only world. man they wouldn't have a f-ing chance. meaning our side will outshine those black idiot's 10 fold. that's why they would do anything to stop segregation from happening. oh yea i still have obama fatigue. when our society has to make fair by an executive order we are all in deep shit. november 6th. can't get here fast enough. just got back from a well needed vacation. godspeed whites!!!

Anonymous said...

This is all the outcome of the commie takeover of the 1960's. The same people are in charge now, scum like Obama, Rahm, Billary, Jesse Jackson, and all the radical feminists. Until they die off, our problems under their leadership will only get worse.

Anonymous said...

Obama is a lawless black. He is as lawless as the criminals he is giving aid and comfort to. It is quite apparent that Obama says that White man's laws are for Whites and not for him and "my people." Whites live in the shadows now. We see our world crumbling all around and it's falling in at an ever increasing speed. Whites no longer control their destiny. We are at the will of the mad dogs of color. If you are White and you think mercy or escape lies somewhere ahead you haven't been paying attention.

Anonymous said...

Recall what it was that had the Obamanation's "spiritual adviser" angrily telling his flock that they should be singing God dammed America.
Too many young negro street warriors being locked up by evil White America.

We're increasingly seeing tacit admissions of sub-Saharan African mental inferiority with the subsequent idea that us Northern First World Peoples, i.e. Whites and Asians, have to learn to accept the low-life criminality and general stupidity the these ill-behaved small brained folk.
Black progress has stalled and even the regressives seem to be giving up hope that blacks can improve significantly; in fact, with the welfare sluts breeding like rabbits blacks are evolving backwards into being increasingly more stupid and uncivil.

White people had better wake up because the situation is only going to get worse over time.

HaroldC said...

I'm thinking that if this goes down like it is expected many whites in public schools are going to become race realists. If the system won't protect them they'll have to learn how to protect themselves. Sure many won't but a larger percentage will become anti-BRA.

Anonymous said...

PK, amazing stuff. Every day.

rjp said...

"Stan you dissed Dontavius by getting right the question he missed, thereby making him look like the fucking retard he is.

Dontavius you shanked Stan for dissing you.

You are both suspended for two weeks."

Anonymous said...

Equality didn't become weaponized, it was weaponized from the very beginning; it was designed and intended as a weapon against whites.

Mutant Swarm said...

Anonymous said...

Then call the police on the perps. Solves both problems of disproportionate levels of discipline. The school then isn't suspending the animals and the animals get to see what their future beholds.

July 31, 2012 4:40 AM
_______________________________

That's if the arrogant principals even condescend to allow armed police officers to enter their campus to arrest the poor little dears. I've known a couple of cops that have had to explain the facts of life to some of these airheads:

"But, but...you can't come in here - you have GUNS!"

"Lady, when I leave here, my handcuffs will be full. With either Shitavious or you. Step aside before he pulls that gun we got called about."

WTF said...

the fuck did I just read, are these people really that stupid? Her derp it must be racism! I swear to god we just jumped into the assbackwardness that was the Soviet system.

"Its not working?"

"Just add more regulations it should work now."

"It's still not working?"

" Hmmmm, BLAME THE KULAKS!"

Midwestern said...

It gets worse.

Black 9th graders being paid $5.25 per hour for summer school:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/d.c.-students-being-paid-for-summer-school/article/2503405

Anonymous said...

I find it hilarious how whenever we point out the disproportionate amount of violent crime being committed by the usual suspooks, the left goes into a tirade of how "not all are like that" and "why make it a racial issue, we're divided enough as it is!"

Then they make it a racial issue when their pets are being punished for the crimes they commit! Liberalism is a full blown assault on common sense and decency.

Sheila said...

Anonymous at 3:52AM - public education, in urban as well as suburban areas, effectively died decades ago. Public school is de facto child abuse. (For extensive documentation, go read the history of public education in this country.

Those who can home school; those who can't (including me, for various reasons) sacrifice and borrow to pay for private school. Even as my husband and I wince at the cost, we do not ever consider sending our younger son to public middle school. It is inconceivable to us. I hope and pray and plan to move, by the time he's ready for high school, to a more rural and heavily majority White area where I can actually send him to public school; his years of private education (augmented by much parental comment and explanation of reality) should leave him immune to the leftist indoctrination in the text books. It worked that way with our older one, although he loathed the ignorance and pliability of his fellow students, and never hesitated to speak his mind, despite the extreme discomfort this caused in the DWL hordes.

Anonymous said...

So basically it's okay to chimp out in school if you're black?

Thank God my daughter is in college now.

Big Bear said...

Hell...why stop with education? Why not apply it to all walks of life? Rather than admit blacks commit more crimes, lets "equalize" the playing field by arresting more non-blacks for "crimes"? Time for more Thought Crime legislation and other such bullshit...

Liberals are truly mentally deranged.

Again, I am so blessed not to live around blacks. Out here on the frontier, there are entire schools (not just classrooms) bereft of black faces.

Also, since many of these federal mandates are unfunded, our local officials (not a Democrat among them!) are likely to ignore any attempts at implementation due to lack of funding.

Anonymous said...

I watched a documentary on Netflix recently about the infamous Pruitt–Igoe housing project. At the beginning of the project in the 1950's, it was a beautiful modern group of high-rise buildings with well-maintained grounds. It was designed by the same architect who designed the World Trade Center. Some of the former residents described how clean and beautiful everything was in the beginning and how happy they were for the first few years. At first, both low income blacks and whites lived there, but the whites all fled after a couple of years. Almost all of the remaining residents were black and that's when the complex started to go into decline. In the documentary, some of the former residents described how they took great joy in vandalizing the buildings/grounds and setting fires because they felt that they were "getting back at the man" by destroying their own homes and neighborhood. They especially seemed to enjoy breaking the elevators and the light fixtures because they had been designed to be "unbreakable." Eventually, management stopped fixing things because they would just get destroyed again almost immediately. The housing complex began to be associated with a lot of crime and drug violence. Police, firefighters, ambulance drivers, etc. were reluctant to visit because some of the residents pelted them with bricks and other debris whenever they tried to approach the buildings. The other residents cried "racism" because of the slow response time by emergency workers. By the 1970's, the housing complex was in ruins and had to be torn down because conditions there had become so unsafe. It was amazing the see how rapidly everything fell apart after just 20 years.

10mm AUTO said...

PRAISE GOD!

Of all things that could possibly trigger a White awakening, it is going after our children that is the most provocative. You can set a White child on fire in another city in another State or have negros riot in a State Fair and Whites will still cluck their tongues and say, "Well, that can't happen to me!". Negroids can beat and rob and even rape and people show an astonishing ability to ignore negroid evil as long as it does not effect THEM. However, you go after "everyone's" child and in both men and women, the protective instincts are put in gear.

The O'hole may be doing this because he is simply so caught up in the idea of promoting his own race over Whitey that NO scheme, however hairbrained or evil, is beyond his ken. He just signs stuff his staff puts in front of him and he thinks, "Yea, another blow to Whitey." His entire Administration is a series of provocations against Whites. Everything from the sending back of the bust of Sir Winston Churchill to the hammering of the middle class to the unleashing of the EPA to driving up gas prices; to personal interference in the Martin/Zimmerman case to the Professor Gates controversy to the Black Panthers to the "typical White woman" comment about his own grandmother to releasing the work requirements in Welfare law. Everything about this administration shows this level of White hate.

What I am trying to say is THIS IS THE PROVOCATION WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR! No other subject; Gas prices, test-taking firemen, replacing White police officers, black farmers getting money, hate crime laws not effecting Whites, NOTHING effects the broad range of Whites the way the unfair treatment of White sons and daughters in government schools effects the population. This subject opens for Race Realists the opportunity to discuss Black Run America to a wide awake, open, willing and angry audience of Whites.

Black police officers take over White police officers? Most White people nod off. Black firefighters don't have to take a test? Most people think that will be the last request BRA asks (HA!). Lot's of negros shoot and rape? "Well, they have been doing that for a long time", Sleepy Whites will say.
On the other hand, say that Johnny comes home from school with a three day suspension because he is White or has a week of after school detention because the blacks have been acting up and their needs to be "a proportional cost to White students" and Whites will rip out the schoolroom walls and scrape carpet with the skulls of bureaucrats. Deny him admittance to the swim team because he has a series of suspensions or detentions mandated by "fairness" and the Saxon Will Hate.

It is bringing BRA home to every White in the USA. No White can run from this, its FEDERAL. Every White will see the unfair and damaging toll this will take as long as WE discuss it! It isn't just the cost of hiring a babysitter, it is lost college possibilities because of "disciplinary problems" and loss of positions in after school athletics and clubs. This is a black mark (!)in every White child's school file.


All we have to do to open the door is tell the story and then as background fill in the image of BRA and all its tentacles. We need to send this to every blogger and e-mail this to every family member we know. Get on radio and talk shows (who here listens to Rush Limbaugh?) locally and Nationally. Be reasonable but angry! We need to comment on it everywhere. We need to go to School meeting and PTA and demand answers and when they give answers, call them liars to their faces and throw copies of this story at their feet. Reasonable but don't allow the "sooth the taxpayer down" retoric make you less angry. This is a Agit-prop opportunity from Heaven and we would be fools to let it merely simmer. I'm calling Medved today. Come on, sleepily heads, its time to act!! Its for the children!

Mr. Rational said...

It worked that way with our older one, although he loathed the ignorance and pliability of his fellow students, and never hesitated to speak his mind, despite the extreme discomfort this caused in the DWL hordes.

Good on both of ya, Shiela!  (Channelling my inner Aussie.)

SomeGuy said...

They'll outlaw private schools and homeschooling. You don't have rights in America, you are an asset. A tax slave.

Simon Jester said...

“What this means is that whites and Asians will get suspended for things that blacks don’t get suspended for,” because school officials will try to level punishments despite groups’ different infraction rates, predicted Hans Bader, a counsel at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.

This has already started. What do you think zero-tolerance policies are really all about? The role of the racial grievance industry in getting these policies adopted has been much overlooked. As you are all probably aware, back in the old days, when a kid committed an infraction, the school administrators would consider a number of factors before meting out punishment, such as the kids prior history, his overall demeanor, and the prescence or abscence of any mens rea. Since niggers are much more likely to be deliberately malevolent, to have priors, and to go into the principal's office with a bad attitude, they tended to be punished more severely.

Much of the impetus for zero-tolerance was caused by the likes of Jesse Jackass and Fat Al Sharpton making lots of noise about black kids recieving more severe punishments for infractions which, in most cases, were only nominally similar to those committed by their white peers. This is why white honors students now get punished the same way for forgetting that they accidentally left a kitchen knife in their car which is parked on campus (this actually happened) as niggers do for carying around Lorcin .380's.

This is all the outcome of the commie takeover of the 1960's. The same people are in charge now, scum like Obama, Rahm, Billary, Jesse Jackson, and all the radical feminists. Until they die off, our problems under their leadership will only get worse.

Not so. As other posters on this thread have pointed out, there are fiscal limits to the ability of these clowns to impose their will upon the majority, and those limits are rapidly being reached. Margaret Thatcher once famously quipped that the problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. We're at that point now.

Anonymous said...

Apparently the only acceptable explanation for the fact that blacks are more likely to be disciplined for various infractions is that the racists in charge are looking away when whites do the same things.

Because it couldn't possibly be the case that blacks are more likely to commit those offenses, could it?

Whitey must be doing it too, but the Man has letting him get away with it.

Bogolyubski said...

Ex New Yorker here...Next this policy will be used on the streets. Crime and NO PUNISHMENT. Murder and rape will be allowed because the "poor person" had a "bad home life" and lost out on the chance to succeed. Just because an innocent black person got caught robbing and raping does not mean he should go to prison. It is not his fault that his neighborhood is filled with drugs, whores, pimps, rapist, killers and gang bangers. If Leroy gets arrested for murder he should only get 30 days at a rehab camp and then let loose back on the streets. Prison would be a cruel and harsh form of punishment.

The next thing they will do is outlaw use of the word CRIME. It is a word that is racist. Also the words RAPE, ROBBERY and MURDER will be politically incorrect. The right terms will be words like "an event" or "a happening" or "an incident." The newscasters will use phrases like "mob-event". "Two people are dead after a "happening" on Martin Luther King Avenue today. A woman is in the hospital after an "incident" in her home last night. An "event" took place today at the Jesse Jackson Savings and Loan and some money was found missing."

I am so glad I don't have to live around black people any more. New York City was enough for me.


This is not nearly as far-fetched as some may think. Remember Lani Guanier, the groid Clinton appointee for AG? One of her articles in an academic legal journal essentially argued that it was impossible for blacks to be guilty of murder when they kill whites due to the ingrained cultural damage suffered as a result of the "legacy of racism." Keep in mind that this was considered serious legal scholarship 20 years ago. Heaven only knows what is being written now.

Note also that since they've largely destroyed the death penalty - with the full connivance of "conservative" judicial appointees - the usual suspects have now set their targets on getting rid of life sentences, as "cruel and unusual punishment."

Anonymous said...

Any mother and father can homeschool. They just have to want it bad enough. I have seen the poorest of the poor do it, sacrificing everything for their children and family. With a single parent or special needs child it is more difficult because you must have the help of your extended family, but it can be done. It's a matter of priorities.

Zenster said...

PK Note: Forgot to publicize this exclusive post over at Vdare on the Chick-Fil-A, Coca-Cola, and Cobb County.

From the Vdare article:

Mayor Rahm Emanuel said this:

“Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values. They’re not respectful of our residents, our neighbors and our family members. And if you’re gonna be part of the Chicago community, you should reflect Chicago values,” Emanuel said Wednesday.

Hilariously, Mayor Rahm has no problem working with anti-white, anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan to try and stop the black crime problem in Chicago by dispatching an army of Black Muslims to patrol the streets where black crime is scaring aware tourism and desperately needed outside investments.
[emphasis added]

Would that be the same Louis Farrakhan as in "Minister Farrakhan Refers to Lesbians and Gays as Swine…"?

So, what's exactly the outrage here? That Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy opposes gay marriage without disparaging gays themselves or that Farrakhan refers to lesbians and gays as "swine"?

One is a philosophical position, the other is an intentionally insulting characterization.

Yet, trust Emanuel to dismiss Farrakhan's ultra-racist homophobia in favor of trying to lock out a job-creating White entrepreneur. Keep it up with the anti-business message, Emanuel. Out of work people tend to get pretty tetchy around election time.

Zenster said...

It dawned on me reading Lawrence Auster's piece, The next frontier—racially equal outcomes in school discipline, that we are witnessing the "last gasp of the Harvard establishment."

This one is far more egregious.

From the VFR article:

“What this means is that whites and Asians will get suspended for things that blacks don’t get suspended for,” because school officials will try to level punishments despite groups’ different infraction rates, predicted Hans Bader, a counsel at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Bader is a former official in the Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights, and has sued and represented school districts and colleges in civil-rights cases. [emphasis added]

Put another way; in a desperate attempt to keep on top of TNB, school officials will thrown an increasing number of successful students under the bus.

Remember, those "whites and Asians" are the ones who will be locked out of top tier universities due to suspensions or expulsions on their school transcripts. This represents millions of dollars in lost future earnings being hurled upon the bonfire of Black uplift.

Worse yet, the Blacks that were unfairly shielded by this disciplinary sleight-of-hand will still not go to college in the exact same numbers as before.

The only other upshot is that there will lots more students who are bullied, robbed, raped or assaulted as young Black thugs see that they have been green-lighted for even bigger amounts of TNB.

0bama must be stopped in November.

Zenster said...

Anon (7/30, 2012 10:44 PM): Mandatory partial lobotomies for whites and Asians so as to equalize the playing field.

Who needs surgery when there are powerful neuro-chemical medications that can duplicate the same effect? Here you go, Johnny, I'll watch while you take your equal education pill and don't forget your anti-racist pill either.

Don't laugh and don't think this hasn't been concocted by the delusional minds on the left already. Of course, they themselves being exempted from this new scheme, you can bet on that!

A consistent trait of those who want to depopulate the planet is a conspicuous lack of leadership by example. The same applies for almost every other Liberal cause.

Since the deliberate dumbing down of whites has not equalized the playing field with blacks after all their efforts in the past 5 decades, and the 5 decades of wasted effort on trying every imaginable way of civilizing and educating Negroes simultaneously failing-what is left for them to do?

Whatever it is, you can bet the farm it won't involve harming a single nappy little hair on a Black noggin.

Seriously, this will be their final solution to the problem. Lobotomies for all those with IQs above 75.

What do you think lowest common denominator television programming has been doing for the last half century? On top of that we now have, due to impersonal electronic telecom technologies like texting and twitter, a generation of children that are more shy than the preceding generation for the first time in history.

Never will those lefties look at the other alternatives, repatriation to Africa(to South Africa in exchange for white Afrikaners) or total segregation.

Horse snot … er, I mean, of course not! It will require huge numbers of raped and tortured DWL children before they would even mutter such a thing under their collective breath.

No one could say that we were sending them into some hell-hole, they were going to get a complete 1st world country to go to where they would be in complete control.

That's the thing. Blacks know that there is no way for them to exert competent control over a technologically advanced chunk of infrastructure. All they can do is loot it. What they do know is that sticking it to Whitey is a surefire way of getting all sorts of "gibsmedat". Why would they want to go to South Africa and work for a living?

We have two other options: we can re-segregate as peacefully as possible soon, or re-segregate after much bloodshed and death later.

I'll say it this way; my money isn't on the former. Like Muslims, Blacks simply demand their own personal holocaust and daily struggle to make it into a reality.

Anonymous said...

"“What this means is that whites will get suspended for things that blacks don’t get suspended for," - Moral of the story is, get your kids the hell out of those schools.

Anonymous said...

I'd like to point out that this isn't new, the schools have been doing everything in their power to massage the white discipline rate for decades, and they still have this problem.

Zenster said...

Anon (7/31 3:52 AM): A school which is not run on the merit system is not a school at all.

I hate to break this to you but there already educators and administrators advocating elimination of the grading system.

Poor little Laquesha's self-esteem will be damaged if she is given an "F". Perish the thought of [gasp!] holding her back a grade.

Of course, these bleeding heart Liberal bastards will have long ago washed their hands of (i.e., "graduated"), not-so-little Laquesha before she finds out that her barely literate semi-retarded Black ass is suitable only for burger flipping or popping out check-inducing sprogs.

The purpose of education is to sort and catagorize student achievement. If that goal is lost one may as well randomize grades themselves.

Rewarding success and failure equally, literally, guarantees that most will opt for failure. Anon @ 10:44 PM was mentioning "Mandatory partial lobotomies for whites and Asians so as to equalize the playing field."

Well, guess what? Eliminating meaningful grades will have much of the same effect toward stunting all learning and studiousness.

A sinister comedian might suggest that is the goal of post-modern education; for by so doing no one's feelings are hurt.

This is the one thing that Liberals absolutely refuse to comprehend:

Blacks cannot be protected from themselves.

They are too predatory and cunning for them to ever be averted from destroying each other and everyone who comes in contact with them. Schools are no exception.

Anonymous said...

Harrison Bergeron is coming true. Read the short story by Kurt Vonnegut or watch the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvqsv1pPSbg

Bogolyubski said...

SomeGuy said...
They'll outlaw private schools and homeschooling. You don't have rights in America, you are an asset. A tax slave.

Bingo. The private schools are already partially taken over thanks to the homosexual communists who are in charge of the Roman Catholic Church in the USSA (Go see Ann Barnhardt if you don't believe me). Sweden has already outlawed home schooling. The rest of the EUSSR will follow suit soon, then the Banksta Banana Republick - with the full cooperation of the "conservative Republican tea-partiers". Again, as with South Africa (full-blown genocide there), note all of the "opposition" to this? (chirp-chirp-chirp)

Anonymous said...

Neo-fascism in the BRICS countries should clarify whether ethnocentrism is or isn't a force the state can draw on to further its interests. This time the European Christian heritage won't have a role in either preventing or exacerbating ethnic conflict, and since the British Empire is defunct also, the cultural influence of liberalism won't be significant. It is a matter of dispute whether Islam is a cereal grain or a weed but that it tends to take over fields and leaves room for no other varieties is not disputed.Thus, another force for intolerance of the "other" emerges.
Taken together, this means neo racialism will re-emerge uninhibited; ethnocentrism won't need apologists. I expect multiculturalism will attain relic status. It might be sentimentalized in chic circles but no one will take it seriously as a vision of the future.
In sum what I am trying to say is that the radical equality movement is simply a Romanticism and is doomed, perhaps even in the near term if our economy worsens significantly and we face implacable economic problems. Our dollar may crash and we won't be able to import cheap Asian goods; we may have to relearn manufacturing and that implies a neo-no-nonsense attitude.

Bogolyubski said...

10MM AUTO:
What I am trying to say is THIS IS THE PROVOCATION WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR! No other subject; Gas prices, test-taking firemen, replacing White police officers, black farmers getting money, hate crime laws not effecting Whites, NOTHING effects the broad range of Whites the way the unfair treatment of White sons and daughters in government schools effects the population. This subject opens for Race Realists the opportunity to discuss Black Run America to a wide awake, open, willing and angry audience of Whites.

I think you overestimate whites' ability to waken from their deep opiate-induced stupor. The government skool gulag known as publick edjumacation has been going after YT for decades - since they introduced the "anti-rayciss" indoctrination of Jane Elliott back in the 1970s. About a decade ago, an author named Christina Hoff Summers wrote a book entitled The War on Boys which documented the full-bore assault by feminist teachers-union types and administrators on boys. Boys were to be doped up and in the name of "girl power". Being a typical part of Conservatism, Inc., Summers neglected to mention that the war was against white boys. Male yoots from the 'precious other' were given the same 'confidence-building' and 'empowerment' as the girls. (One of the reasons for the vast increase in white girls pooping out mulattos).

Once again, look at the response of whites in South Africa to a regime which is more or less openly carrying out a program of genocide against them: craven cowardly cooperation coupled with a total denial of reality. They obey the ever more restrictive gun laws, they pay their taxes and they go along to get along in the utterly insane belief that somehow the ANC regime isn't what it really is.

josh said...

Great comments but I cant help but grimace at all the guys who refer to "whites and Asians". Hey,sorry to bust your bubble but we Y-T's are ALONE! Dont imagine that you have some kind of ally who is going to stand up for you and can help you because his non-white race gives him power with the Elite. Remember the immortal Mad Magazine joke,when the Lone Ranger & Tonto are confronted by a mob of wild Injuns and the Lone Rangers comment,"WE are in trouble Tonto" is met by a grinning Injun reciting those immortal words,words that oughta be inscribed on the Washington Monument:"What you mean WE,Kemo Sabe???"

Warlord1958 said...

Well the facebook fuck-wads are at it again. I can't post this on my page.

Unreconstructed Confederate said...

We need to trace all the current
problems to a horribly false and
totally wrong misconception on which
this country was founded:
It is definitely NOT "self-
evident that all men are created
equal." Certainly, Thomas Jefferson
believed no such thing. Did he
really believe that the lowliest
slave on his plantation was inherently equal to himself, or to
Franklin or Washington? Perhaps
all he meant was that aristocracy
was a human invention, and that
no one could be "base born" due to
his father not having been of the
titled classes, but none the less
"all men are created equal" has
led to the absurd notion of "one
man, one vote", and to the idea that everyone
should have an equal say in the
making of public policy.
Black run America is the evil
fruit of Jeffersonian egalitarian
philosophy.
Those patriotic whites who
have idolized Jefferson and others
like him laid the groundwork for
what we see today. Just as most
blacks cannot deal with the reality
of who and what they are, very
few conservative Americans can
cope with the realization that
Jefferson spoke and wrote total
nonsense! After all, is it not
self-evident that all men are
NOT created equal?

Discard said...

Josh is more right than wrong. The Orientals will not help us, because they are not "us". They despise the Darks, and the Darks hate them, but they will only fight for themselves. They will not fight against us, because for now, that's a losing proposition. They will perhaps perhaps fight alongside us if it suits their interests, but if it all turns to shit, they will simply fight their way to the airport, stopping at the bank along the way.

Anonymous said...

If you want to hear how illogical and dumb blacks are, then tune into the Sean Hannity radio show. Same for my local station with a local host. Mind numbing incoherence from black callers

When OJ was acquitted you saw videos of black college students (I think it was Howard University) cheering that a black man had killed whites and got off. And those students are supposed to be the hi-IQ members of the black community. No wonder we have trouble with them.

Discard said...

Unreconstructed Confederate: Jefferson was a flake. He did not manage his plantation well and died nearly bankrupt. He had the brains that none of today's broke former athletes have, and still pissed away all his money. Not only are all men NOT created equal, Jefferson wasn't even half the President that James K. Polk was.

Mr. Rational said...

Jefferson was a flake. He did not manage his plantation well and died nearly bankrupt.

Jefferson had no White sons; he had no one to leave Monticello to.  Spending his time on other things was arguably the best use of his time, and we have a great deal of political thought he bequeathed to us.

Anonymous said...

" The Orientals will not help us, because they are not "us". They despise the Darks, and the Darks hate them, but they will only fight for themselves. "

You mean like the Yellow Chinamen who aided the White American B-25 crews who bombed Japan after Franklin D. Roosevelt's propaganda raid led by Lt. Col. James Dolittle?

And what price did the Yellow Chinamen pay for this aid?

"Approximately 250,000 Chinese civilians were massacred by the Japanese Army in eastern China in retaliation for Chinese assistance of the attacking American aviators."

"Doolittle and his crew, after parachuting into China, received assistance from Chinese soldiers and civilians as well as John Birch, an American missionary in China."

Yes, when would ASIANS ever aid White Americans, huh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid

Aryan Goddess said...

This is precisely why white parents should homeschool their kids. I'm glad I went to public school in an all white town. I shudder to think how bad these poor young white kids have it now.

I remember a few months ago when I was leaving South Florida I saw this young white kid (about 15 or so) with a skateboard, long hair, gothic looking, (good looking kid) waiting for the light to change to walk back home.

I could feel the sadness in his face. I'm sure mom and dad are both working their asses off to provide food for their family and can't leave that area of South FL. But his demeanor belied a defeated young man who is constantly surrounded by feral niggers and filthy mestizo orcs who probably hate his guts and bully him daily.

Find an older home in a smaller town and pay for it in cash if you can. Peruse tax sales. There are TONS of abandoned homes all across white America.

Find a couple of families to go in with you. Buy up the block. There are towns East of the Mississippi that are all white. I've seen towns with only 70 people in the population.

Now there are no job, BUT, if you find a house that has a good back yard, you can create a garden.

Dumpster dive, learn how to extreme coupon, do what it takes to make it. I bet if young white families would network with each other they could make it, just like our ancestors did. Whites who left Oklahoma in the dust bowl time had it far worse than us and they made it.

Anonymous said...

From the article you cited:
“President Barack Obama is backing a controversial campaign by progressives to regulate schools’ disciplinary actions so that members of major racial and ethnic groups are penalized at equal rates, regardless of individuals’ behavior.”
– What that really means is that he wants no consequences for black “students” who are disruptive (that is most of them) in public schools. Obongo’s presidency resembles a dictatorship more with each passing day. This is especially evident with what he did to Arizona. If he is reelected (and he will be) his next move will surely be to rescind the 2nd amendment. He wants us to be defenseless like South African and British Whites. You heard (well, read) it here first!

Anonymous said...

I am so glad I don't have to live around black people any more. New York City was enough for me.


NYC is now 70% Minority.
EARTH TO WHITES, Minority means 49% or less.

Anonymous said...

Some of you have Jefferson all wrong. He had black people pegged right even way back then. His desire was ultimately to see slavery abolished and then have blacks removed from any contact with whites. He stated in "Notes on Virginia" that blacks and whites could not live in the same government. He certainly did NOT believe blacks were equal to whites.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part3/3h490t.html

Anonymous said...

Black misbehavior has less to do with out-of-wedlock birth rates, and more to do with low I.Q. and innate lack of impulse control, which cannot be changed. As a group, whites will never be able to play basketball as well as blacks, and blacks will never be able to use their brains as well as whites.

Discard said...

Mr Rational: Thomas Jefferson had no surviving sons of any color, as far as is known. The crap about Sally Hemmings is propaganda. Read the original article on the DNA "proof" in the British magazine "Nature" and you'll see how dishonest the story is.

Why would Jefferson not leave his estate to his daughters? We have no primogeniture nor entailment in this country. Most of Washington's wealth was rightly his wife's, so under Virginia law, Jefferson's daughters would have inherited and kept his land. If he had paid more attention to practical matters, his political thought might have been improved. Theory is always improved by experience. Nope, the man was a flake.

Respectfully, Discard

Anonymous said...

You will notice that the decline of that Pruitt Igoe Project coincided with the desegregation of public housing...

Discard said...

Anon of the Wiki Doolittle raid. The Chinese helped Doolittle and his men because they were fighting the same enemy. (Yes, I know it was a propaganda stunt, and that FDR was warned that the Japanese would take revenge on Chinese civilians. FDR sucked.)
Like I wrote, but you apparently missed: "They will perhaps fight alongside us if it suits their interests..."

I used to live and teach in the San Gabriel Valley, the Chinese colony east of Los Angeles. I never felt that the Orientals hated us, but they don't give a shit about us either, and they'd rather we went away. Not our friends.

BTW, what's with the "Yellow Chinamen" business? Are you a racist? Do you hate them? I don't.

Anonymous said...

I'm old enough and unfortunate enough to have had to attend the 8th and 9th grades AFTER integration. The diversity was wonderful~ blacks attacking people for little or no reason, attempting to shake them down for lunch money, refusing to let them sit down on the school bus, throwing crabapples at white kids' heads with extreme force to cause injury, a school shooting, blacks forcing their way to the front of the lunch line with arrogant and haughty expressions on their faces as if they were somehow special, entitled and deserving of doing so.
Disrupting the classes and generally just being belligerent and obnoxious asses.
I faced all that and got into numerous fights because of being attacked almost on a weekly basis. Got suspended several times, threatened with expulsion and the vice principal declared that I belonged in juvenile hall. All because I refused to be browbeaten, attacked and bullied by the "diversity."
I even recall being surrounded by a couple of hundred blacks when one demanded I give him several dollars and I refused and he wanted to become even more hostile and belligerant. There'd already been mob attacks by blacks on whites at other schools but I was so furious I didn't care and called him a goddamn nigger. Only the intervention of an authority figure prevented the incident from escalating. However, even then, the greater offense was calling a nigger a nigger and not the attempted strong arm shakedown by the worthless nigger.
I managed to escape that nigger infested hell hole of a school after the 9th grade and went to a civilized school from that point on. However, I've never forgotten and never will forget what niggers are~ pure unadulterated subhuman garbage.
IF you're sending your kids to such a school, you are doing them a horrible injustice. I can't imagine how it could be worse today than it was then but I'm sure it is from everything I've read. Obamanigger just wants to ensure that the attacks are even more "officially approved and sanctioned" under the guise of fairness and equal treatment.
I call B.S. on that!

RobertB said...

" Anonymous said...

Harrison Bergeron is coming true. Read the short story by Kurt Vonnegut or watch the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvqsv1pPSbg"

The movie is unfaithful to the story. Read the story (http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html), then watch the movie. The movie is available free on youtube--in 12 segments.

RobertB said...

At the time the Constitution was written, there wasn't a single sane person in the Western World who thought blacks were fully human. They were, at best, property. It was only at the dawn of the 20th Century that mainstream Christians began to think of them as a people with a Soul--that would include their view of Asians as well. Even in 1863 when Lincoln came up with the Emancipation Proclamation, most Americans were not willing to die for slaves--the NYC draft riots as well as a calamitous drop in volunteers, led Lincoln to send recruiters to Ireland and the German States for volunteers to fight his new war to free the slaves.

Remember, 100 years ago the average person's life was ruled by the Bible. And there were no Wongs (or kimbutus) on Noah's Arc, were there? You can thank Darwinism for the belief that we are all the same--it fits right in with Communist belief systems.

Silent Running said...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

There's the context.

When those words were written, the Divine Right of Kings was still taken seriously. Inequality between classes was accepted at a level that would horrify most Westerners today.

I think the Founders can be forgiven, mostly, for not foreseeing the nightmare that we are all living through. They probably couldn't conceive of the notion that there would be people evil enough to not only willfully misinterpret what they wrote, but to do so having abandoned all reason.

We'd better not make the same mistake.

Mr. Rational said...

RobertB: You can thank Darwinism for the belief that we are all the same

Sorry, you're wrong.  Darwin himself wrote about variation and races of different species, including Homo sapiens.  It's the radical egalitarians, starting from the anthropologist Frank Boas, who have done their best to deny difference and make any discussion of it an expulsion-from-academia offense.  It's also the evolutionary biologists and geneticists who are proving, gene by gene, that we not only ARE different, but exactly how we are different... with hard evidence that cannot be waved away as "racist".

Anonymous said...

"Like I wrote, but you apparently missed: "They will perhaps fight alongside us if it suits their interests..."

No, I didn't. Every human being, especially a Chinese civilian, makes a choice as to whether or not to help a foreign soldier on their territory. The Chinese civilians made a deliberate choice, knowing full well what the Japanese are capable of (Nanking, 1937), to help the White American bomber crews. Yes, Japanese killed relatives in Nanking so these are not abstract things we speak of in terms of Asians helping White people.

" I never felt that the Orientals hated us, but they don't give a shit about us either, and they'd rather we went away. Not our friends.

I don't know what that means. Like, they didn't invite you to parties or something?

Anonymous said...

Just so you know, public school employees HATE white "gifted" students...you know, the ones who care about their grades and want to succeed. I cannot tell you the number of teachers who asked my child why she cared so much about her grades (and this is asked with disgust). A new thing among these gifted teachers is beginning the class by stating that if the student is used to getting A's, they need to get out of that mindset because NO ONE would be getting A's in their class that year. What teacher doesn't want their students to succeed?

My child was in all gifted classes except for one and in that one class she learned that it doesn't pay to do homework because when she would stay up until 11:30 PM to finish her work, the following day when all the slacker, loser black students whined about not being able to get the work done, the teacher would give everyone an extra day or more, OR cancel the assignment altogether!

In gym class (black people do not appear to like to sweat which always had me baffled as to why they excel in sports) everyone was assigned laps and the white students would dutifully run the laps while the blacks would stroll or not run at all then they would go up to the instructor and tell him/her that they ran the required laps when they did not and the teacher didn't argue with them. They would get marked as having done something when they did nothing. The stories she told me! Insane.

Back to the gifted students. When my child would argue or question any teacher, she would be called "privileged," as though this would discount any comment from her. She once spotted a book on left on a shelf about "how to deal with gifted students" as though dealing with a bright, highly-motivated individual was a major problem instead of pure joy. There were rarely black people in this program because they can't keep up. The few that were included acted like white people--you know, NORMAL!

Californian said...

I'll raise a point here: many school systems have a majority black or DWL teachers and administrators. If so, then how can "racism" be involved in the disproportionate number of black students being disciplined?

One of the reasons for implementing zero tolerance policies was to ensure that all students were treated equally. The result was that blacks were and are disciplined and jailed in larger proportionate numbers than whites. As usual, when the outcome is contrary to ideological assumptions, DWLs force the reality to bend. How much more can the system bend before it breaks?

Come to think of it, maybe it is already broken and what we are seeing is damage control on the Titanic.


Since the late 80's I have desperately tried to float the idea that sending blacks to South Africa in exchange for the whites there would be the best option possible...

Here's a better idea: we send the DWLs to the new rainbow nation of SA. They can enjoy all the benefits of the ANC which they supported. DWLs might also might take pleasure in a society in which, owing to the incompetence/corruption of law enforcement, only a fraction of criminals are arrested/incarcerated.



...access to quality teachers...


Note how DWLs/race hustlers can take an unfair swipe at teachers in inner city schools by claiming them to be unqualified for their jobs. It just may be that these are superlative teachers, and are perhaps even motivated by idealism to teach for America. But the quality of students, as well as the quality of the local educational culture, is down the toilet.

It's the thing that few people want to face up to: that there are a lot of people can not be educated in any meaningful way. The dilemma is, those peoples numbers are growing, and the system increasingly caters to them.

PK has made a point about how we could have been on Mars were it not for BRA. It's not simply the money being diverted, but also the intellectual capital lost. Students who once might have led the way in STEM are shunted aside in favor of the lowest common denominator, while the funds and leadership which might have been used for the space program instead are poured down the rathole of the social engineering self-destruction spiral.

Anonymous said...

Voter Fraud. SNAP abuse. ACORN. Wefare Queens. Racism. Affirmative Action. Black on Black Murder at 90 % +. 24 % Unemployment. Drug Use. NAACP. Ghettos. 70 % + out-of-wedlock births. 50 % graduation rates from high school. 50 % HIV positive. Flash Mobs. Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jr., Maxine Waters, Shelia Jackson Lee, ' Cold Cash ' Jefferson, Marion Berry, Charley Rangel, Kvamme Lassiter, Eric Holder, Elijah Cummings, Michael Vick, Wesley Snipes, Snoop Dog, DOJ, Mr. Raines, EVERY single head of HUD. There isn't a black Democrat that hasn't hasn't shat all over themselves and "their people"; keep up the good work. You're all responsible for more death and destruction of black America than all the white people in this country over the last 100 years combined........

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/mississippi-naacp-leader-sent-to-prison-for-10-counts-of-voter-fraud/#ixzz22JaD3boE

Anonymous said...

What do you think lowest common denominator television programming has been doing for the last half century?

To get on the soapbox, race realism has to be part of a wider cultural insurrection in which television (and other control mechanisms) have to be rejected and dismantled. Television's primary impact is to warehouse people in their own darkened living rooms, isolated from their societies and families (no talking during the program!) while entranced by the shadows on the cave wall. And we can add in all the other elements of TV criticism which are made much better at:

http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/

The thing is, Americans need to live real lives. Right now, America is living in a "mutually consensual hallucination" in which trivia becomes glorified while the collapse of country and civilization is ignored because it is not film at eleven.


“Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values."

Where's Al Capone when you need 'im?
(I couldn't resist...!)

Zenster said...

RobertB: You can thank Darwinism for the belief that we are all the same…

Ummmm … no. If anything, Darwinian science can be used to accurately explain why Blacks and Whites are so different.

Read Irving Stone's "The Origin" sometime so that you can understand the incredible work and travails that Darwin underwent to arrive at his theory.

You do know that Darwin's first calling was as a clergyman, right?

It's much easier to argue that Creationism's arbitrary narrative has done far more to damage human reasoning than Evolution ever has.

RobertB said...

" Anonymous said...

"Like I wrote, but you apparently missed: "They will perhaps fight alongside us if it suits their interests..."

No, I didn't. Every human being, especially a Chinese civilian, makes a choice as to whether or not to help a foreign soldier on their territory. The Chinese civilians made a deliberate choice, knowing full well what the Japanese are capable of (Nanking, 1937), to help the White American bomber crews. Yes, Japanese killed relatives in Nanking so these are not abstract things we speak of in terms of Asians helping White people."

Except for the fact that the Chinese has already been at war with Japan for years and the Japanese had already taken to killing them in droves and, at that point, we were China's only ally.

You sure do live in a dream world, don't you? The Chinese are in America to leach off of us. Every time I turn around, some Chinese government employee or private business employee is caught stealing secrets and carrying them back to his Chinese masters.

My Homeland holds no room for any of the "other". They take spots from genuine American children every day. That is wrong. Those children's ancestors built this country and pay taxes to support the land grant colleges. They should come first, period. Fuck the Chinese, let them build their own universities and invent their own technology. They are our ideological enemies and have supported BRA since day one. They gave political and monetary support to the radicals who fought to overthrow our people and their culture. Even now, they are and have been, waging economic warfare with us through currency manipulations and product dumping. They are buying up one of the world's (and America's last remaining) iron ore reserves--the Minnesota Iron Range. They will mine it and remove it, stockpiling it for their own future use.

You are a fool.

https://sites.google.com/site/heavenlybanner/its-very-simple-the-true-story-of-civil-rights

RobertB said...

" Mr. Rational said...

RobertB: You can thank Darwinism for the belief that we are all the same

Sorry, you're wrong. "

Okay, name me one prominent Darwinist who claims blacks are inferior due to their evolutionary backwardness. Last I checked, the mainstream geneticists were all parroting the "out of Africa" lie.

Chirp, chirp, chirp.......

Thats the sound of crickets chirping in the silence.

RobertB said...

Zenster-
"t's much easier to argue that Creationism's arbitrary narrative has done far more to damage human reasoning than Evolution ever has."

Wrong. The Bible makes it quite clear that there was Chosen People and then "others" This was understood by all Christians and Jews up until about 100 years ago. It starts in Genesis when Cain, after killing his brother, leaves and marries a woman from another tribe. That tribe was made up of the other. It continues with the story of the Tower Of Babel and later with Noah--whose children founded the tribes of the Chosen. Each child is credited with a tribe they do not include Wongs or Zulus. When people once understood that they were not us because they were not of Noah's children, they considered them be savages and called them such. We understood the savage nature to be different from us because they were without God--our God. They had not been made in God's image. Modern Christianity says otherwise--and look at what it is.

And Yes, we, Europeans, are "Noahides", Noah's children founded the tribes of Europe. Now, I do not take the Bible literally, but I do believe it explains, as best as ancient man could understand, that which he knew to be true and correct. I find it interesting that genetics points to the accuracy of this:

Seven Daughters of Eve:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Daughters_of_Eve

Zenster said...

Silent Running: I think the Founders can be forgiven, mostly, for not foreseeing the nightmare that we are all living through. They probably couldn't conceive of the notion that there would be people evil enough to not only willfully misinterpret what they wrote, but to do so having abandoned all reason.

You are absolutely right. The book I am currently editing contains many profiles of those who framed the Constitution. People like George Washington and John Jay gave full meaning to the words "public servant" and continued to toil in the traces long after they had reached the pinnacle of their personal success. On top of it all, they also endured the slings and arrows of a fickle and sometimes unappreciative public.

Like Capitalism, America's Democratic Republic functions well only when those who participate play by the rules. Both are extremely sensitive to bad actors and each can be abused in exceptionally harmful ways.

It is no small coincidence that we have been treated to supreme examples of this with Wall Street looting the American public's coffers even as an avowed Communist ushers in this country's darkest hours. Both are driven by opportunistic and premeditated criminality of a sort that is very difficult to catch in advance of the act. Especially so when both groups have spent decades laying the groundwork for their respective malfeasance.

0bama's abortion of justice and corporatism's untrammeled greed are two sides of the same craven coin. Both deserve the same harsh punishment for their crimes.

Again, it is impossible for the Founding Fathers to have foreseen the proliferation of a group so dead set against the American way as the Blacks of today. I doubt their minds could have comprehended such pure, unalloyed evil. As RobertB noted:

At the time the Constitution was written, there wasn't a single sane person in the Western World who thought blacks were fully human.

Maybe they were onto something.

Discard said...

Anonymous Wiki Doolittle China person: I'm guessing that you're Chinese, because of your poor English comprehension. The Chinese helped American fliers in 1942, because we were on their side, get it? And don't forget that we paid rewards IN GOLD for returned fliers. Nothing you've said changes the fact that Chinese look out for their own people first. There's nothing wrong with that, except for those that want to live here and benefit from White society while keeping their old loyalties.

You are right, that Chinese do not invite Whites to parties, or anything else, is exactly how you can tell they don't want us around. Nor would Chinese accept invitations from Whites, or Mexicans. They segregated themselves from the other peoples they lived among. It would be entirely reasonable for a Chinese in China to shun foreigners if they wished, but it is a different matter to shun the people whose country they have chosen to immigrate to.
The Chinese who move to America come from the educated classes. They are not poor, and they are not forced to live in slums. They live and work where they choose, and they choose exclusive Chinese colonies. They make it clear that we are not their people, and just as clearly, they are not us. And as I wrote, in the event of an economic collapse or racial blow-up, they will not stand with Whites, but will flee back home. They have no more loyalty to this country than a White American with a condo in Acapulco has to Mexico.

Tyrone Shoelaces said...

...we need to sue my physical education teacher and the school and the district because I cannot run as fast as daqquariuss, leroyonda, and tyronza. This must be due to the racists at my school. We need a lawsuit like this with tons of media attention from some poor non blacks who turned out to be inferior athletes.

I would be willing to bet a lot of money that, if looked at, the statistics will reveal mass racism against whites and Asians in physical education.

I will chip in for the lawsuit and the cause if anybody thinks we can get in the media.

Anonymous said...

"Except for the fact that the Chinese has already been at war with Japan for years and the Japanese had already taken to killing them in droves and, at that point, we were China's only ally."

So what? A Chinese person risked their life and their fellow countrymen for white people. They could just as well let the white bomber crews DIE because, who would have cared?

"Every time I turn around, some Chinese government employee or private business employee is caught stealing secrets and carrying them back to his Chinese masters."

Odd isn't it that we hear this invective from you, the Courtneys and so forth and yet the Isrealis, the Russians, the French and so forth have been conducting economic espionage against the USA generations. Must be a racial thing, huh?

"They take spots from genuine American children every day."

So you object when a Chinese student buys a product called "education" from a University?

"Even now, they are and have been, waging economic warfare with us through currency manipulations and product dumping."

You got to be kidding me; the USA is SELLING their treasury bills and who is buying them? PRC. The USA sold their mortgage backed securities, uh, excuse me, PALMED OFF on the rest of the world and the US government turned around and rescued the foreign banks with billions.

"You are a fool."

Look yourself in the mirror.

"The Chinese helped American fliers in 1942, because we were on their side, get it? And don't forget that we paid rewards IN GOLD for returned fliers."

A Chinese civilian doesn't have to do ANYTHING that endangers the life of themselves or family. Get it? It's a CHOICE regardless of what ANY government states is an "allie." Pay GOLD? So therefore Chinese civilians will take risks and endanger their own members for coin? No wonder FDR didn't care much for possible Chinese civilian deaths!

MuayTyson said...

I live in Korea my wife is Korean. What many of you don't know about Asians would fill the Grand Canyon.
Let me clue you in MOST Asians appreciate the advances of the West. They also prefer to stay to themselves and have the exact same view points that many of you have. They want to keep their community and their autonomy. They have no problem with polite interactions such as business and trade but would prefer to be left on their own.
My wife is a bit of an odd ball in her family as am I. We get along we love each other and have full understanding of each others views. We both agree that for each country to keep it's national character they have to keep majority population.

Mr. Rational said...

RobertBname me one prominent Darwinist who claims blacks are inferior due to their evolutionary backwardness.

Thanks (not) for the loaded question worthy of Duane Gish.  It is full of misconceptions which have to be addressed individually to show why they're slanted, misleading or just plain wrong:

"one prominent Darwinist":  First, there are no "Darwinists" as your question implies.  Nobody follows "the teachings of Darwin"; Darwin didn't even know about Mendelian inheritance.  Darwinian natural selection is ONE of the forces known to act on the prevalence of genes in populations, but even there we know of twists that would have surprised Darwin.  The areas of study are called things like "evolutionary biology" and "population genetics"; nobody is "professor of Darwinism", except perhaps in a Bible college someplace where they write caricatures of scientific papers to contrast to their religious dogma.

Second, most evolutionary biologists are not public figures.  You would not recognize many of them as "prominent".  For instance, while Richard Dawkins is a household name, I bet you don't know who Razib Khan is.

"who claims blacks are inferior":  First, you realize that any academic who made such a claim, even at Liberty University or Oral Roberts U., would be committing career suicide?

Second, define "inferior".  The terms of art are things like "adaptive" and "maladaptive", which depends on the environment of climate, predators, parasites and other humans.  If the traits of Blacks were so maladaptive for the Congo, why didn't some other racial group take it away from them?  Even King Leopold gave up on it, no?

Third, you will find scientific papers talking about genetic factors influencing e.g. social aggression and future-time preference, but the language is all carefully coded to avoid anything that could be considered "racist".  If the researchers went too far the entire field could be stripped of research money; some knowledge is too "hot" for the PTB to handle, so the case has to be built slowly and carefully under their radar.

"due to their evolutionary backwardness.":  You need to read "The 10,000 Year Explosion" by Cochran and Harpending.  "Backward" begs the question, "backward compared to what?"  Making themselves too much trouble even for a technologically advanced colonizing nation like Belgium suggests that they're more advanced in at least one way than the Belgians, who are themselves being colonized by non-European races and not fighting back worth a damn.

If you want to talk about how the collapse of European defenses to more aggressive and less intelligent racial inflow is due to a memetic disease I'm there, but that's another issue and it doesn't have squat to do with evolution or science.

Seven Daughters of Eve:

The irony is that if such Biblical stories were true, the observed genetic variation in even Europeans would have required a rate of mutation dozens or hundreds of times greater than anything observed or assumed by evolutionary biology.

Silent Running said...

Odd isn't it that we hear this invective from you, the Courtneys and so forth and yet the Isrealis, the Russians, the French and so forth have been conducting economic espionage against the USA generations. Must be a racial thing, huh?

WHITEY DOES IT TOO.

Btw, when the PRC attempts to turn a Chinese immigrant into a spy, it always appeals to the individual's nationalism. You might be surprised how often this works.

So you object when a Chinese student buys a product called "education" from a University?

This creature is loopy.

They want to keep their community and their autonomy.

So do I. And that's why Asians belong in Asia. All of them.

I don't remember getting an answer the last time I posted this, so I'll lay it out there again: when the Korean boy down the street comes around asking for my daughter, where does our "alliance" with the Asians stand then? When the halfbreed daughter of John and BOOK SUK wants to marry my son, should I inform my "ally" that she is not welcome to pollute my family tree?

How many who push the Good Asian meme happen to be married to Asian women?

RobertB said...

Mr. Rational-

"Darwinists" are anyone who believes in his theory. I don't. While I believe some evolution takes place, I do not believe I evolved from a fish over a few billion years. Interesting you mention Dawkins, since he is MR. Political Correctness.

yes, I know who Razib Khan is and what Genx is--my sister in law earned her PhD helping map the human genome at Madison. She trumps him both intellectually and educationally.

Your 10,000 year explosion theory is just that--and it ain't got feet, unless you want to believe YT became white in 10,000 years. But the Eskimos haven't.

Lastly, the Seven Sisters Of Eve is not referencing the Bible, it is referencing the fact that they traced mitochondrial European DNA to seven women 30,000 years ago. Those seven essentially founded the tribes of Europe--though they have added a few more since the book was written. I find it interesting because it fits the biblical scenario. I also find it rather revealing that you didn't even know it existed. Haven't we been here before with your love of China men? And the myth of the flotilla of junks that circumnavigated the globe that no history professors believe? Yes, I think so. And didn't you have trouble understanding that the Greeks plied those waters 2,250 years ago? Yes you did.


Interesting that you name Razib Khan --an atheist. It proves my point. Evolutionary theory led to a disbelief in God, prior to that, people believed and they believed the lessons of the Bible. The Bible is "racist", in that it names it's people and those people are created in God's image. We can't all be God like, now can we?

BTW, the out of africa computer model contained some fine print--that fine print stated quite clearly that there was also a 50-50 chance that the races sprang up spontaneously in different regions. That is and has been the other theory--but PC demands that it be silenced. Interestingly enough, none of your heroes has he balls to go there, do they? The Chinese have the balls to go there and what's more, their recent archaeological finds indicate that it is the correct theory.

You are so poorly informed, Grasshopper. I don't need a darkie like Razib Khan to tell me my people are superior, I already know it. It's as plain as the darkness of Razib Khan's face. It isn't his science he is expounding on, it is European science. The old Brits used to understand the severe disability of the "asian" mind. Too bad you didn't reads enough of their writings to know it yourself.

RobertB said...

Anon-
"dd isn't it that we hear this invective from you, the Courtneys and so forth and yet the Isrealis, the Russians, the French and so forth have been conducting economic espionage against the USA generations. Must be a racial thing, huh?"

Nope, not odd. I am an American. I have ancestors that fought the bastards in Korea. I have no illusions about them. They pollute the earth with their over population--they do not need to pollute my people's homelands. Got it yet? Probably not. What is interesting is your love of them--Chinese, are we?

"So you object when a Chinese student buys a product called "education" from a University?"

Yes, I already said so. Chinese people did not pay for the construction of those schools, white taxpayers did. White taxpayers continue to support them. Their children come first. As I said, let the Chinese build their own universities and create their own technology. Why do you want to see American children denied access to a higher education so a Chink can get one? That is the real question here. Besides, even thirty years ago they sucked as TA's liked that fact--the fact that no American could understand them. They laughed about it.

"A Chinese civilian doesn't have to do ANYTHING that endangers the life of themselves or family. Get it? It's a CHOICE regardless of what ANY government states is an "allie."

Well, the fact that we paid them in gold is proof that they did not do it to be nice--they did it for the money!

BTW, "ally" isn't spelled with an "i e".

"You got to be kidding me; the USA is SELLING their treasury bills and who is buying them? PRC. The USA sold their mortgage backed securities, uh, excuse me, PALMED OFF on the rest of the world and the US government turned around and rescued the foreign banks with billions."

There is never any excuse for ignorance. First of all, owning someone's debt is leverage--pun intended, just ask Guido. Second of all, China is not buying our debt which is why they have been monetizing the debt. They just coined a new name for it--"quantitative easing".

Dude, the Chinese suck, thats why no one wanted them in America 150 years ago. Now, I can handle a few Japanese. But not many.

RobertB said...

Mr Rational(izer)--

Do you ever get anything right?

"If the traits of Blacks were so maladaptive for the Congo, why didn't some other racial group take it away from them? Even King Leopold gave up on it, no?"

After he had gotten what he wanted. His troops had no problem killing congolese and forcing them into line. You need to read some real history some time. It would help. Let me explain, real history books site their sources. And those sources actually have real documents to back up them up. Anything else, like Chinese junk fleets, are myth, fantasy, propaganda--you know, like Afro-studies and Chicano Studies and Feminist Studies.

The Congo was not a Belgian colony, it was Leopold's private domain and he did not have any problems dealing with the blacks there--

"Estimates of the death toll range from two million to fifteen million"

He just killed them all at his whim. Only an inferior people would allow that, Rationalizer. I actually find it a humorous tale on some levels--and it really does prove that I am right in how European Christians once thought of the "other". They would not have butchered them if they had thought of them as human.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium

Belgium, like all of the "allies" that America liberated, were forced to give up their colonies by FDR. That was the price of military aid that even the UK and France were forced to adhere to. One of the reasons De Gaulle hated America.

Of course the greatest story never told is that of the British East India Company--a group of men who formed a corporation who's express purpose was to raise a private army and conquer India--and then did it!!!

It was only 300 years later that the "Queen" took it over as it was considered, by then, to be rather unsightly for a private corporation to rule over an entire sub-continent.

But hey,your hero Khan is descended from those inferior people who were conquered by a British corporation.

Anonymous said...

Robert B, I'm no fan of India or its people, but ridiculing them because they were conquered by a British corporation is out of place, coming from a member of a society that is presently conquered and occupied by Black and Brown people. You ought be more temperate in your criticisms.

Anonymous said...

"WHITEY DOES IT TOO."

Exactly right. "Engineering Communism" is a book on how Two White Americans spied for the Soviet Union and created their Silicon Valley.

"Btw, when the PRC attempts to turn a Chinese immigrant into a spy, it always appeals to the individual's nationalism. You might be surprised how often this works.

Yes, and the Israelis use the Jewish religion for exactly the same thing.

Or are you actually alluding that MONEY should be sole motivation for "turning" someone?

"So you object when a Chinese student buys a product called "education" from a University?
This creature is loopy.

Let me see, the USA purchases BILLIONS in crap from PRC and the stuff is shipped in unitized shipping containers by the thousands to America. What goes back in those same shipping containers to PRC? Not much. And after the US drought this summer not even corn.

So who's "loopy" when Chinese purchase "education" from a University, one of the products the USA can offer? (How about that, RobertB?)

" When the halfbreed daughter of John and BOOK SUK wants to marry my son, should I inform my "ally" that she is not welcome to pollute my family tree?

Get it on tape and post it on youtube; I'm sure it would be good for laughs. Defending the racial purity of the family tree against love. Oh my.

LOL.

"Well, the fact that we paid them in gold is proof that they did not do it to be nice--they did it for the money!

The US may have paid A Chinaman or even the Chinese Nationalist government, but as for the people who took the risks???

I recall reading a story about how the Chinese returned the body of a white american airmen. The man's body included the personal effects which included a very expensive pen. The story said it was a sign of respect that the Chinese returned the item for the man's family instead of keeping it for themselves. After all, who would know if it was simply lost in battle. So it's amusing you, RobertB, attributing GOLD as to the motivation for helping American flyers.

Mr. Rational said...

RobertB"Darwinists" are anyone who believes in his theory. I don't.

Using that definition, there are no "Darwinists"; his theory had been superceded by the 1920's.

I do not believe I evolved from a fish over a few billion years.

Considerably less than that; the first bony fish appeared about 510 million years ago.  All extant primates are descended from a lemur-like species which was alive at the Cretaceous-Tertiary (K-T) boundary 65 million years ago, and radiated into new niches after the disappearance of the dinosaurs.

We have the fossil and genetic evidence of these events.  We know that e.g. human chromosome 2 was formed by the fusion of 2 other chromosomes which exist in the great apes.  We are uncovering specific human genetic variations and tracing them back to particular human groups and historical events.  We know that humans did not merely evolve, we know that humans are evolving at increasing speed to this very day.

I'd like to say that it doesn't matter what you believe, but your dismissal of evolution is characteristic of a crank mindset.  You do harm to your case and our cause.

the Seven Sisters Of Eve is not referencing the Bible, it is referencing the fact that they traced mitochondrial European DNA to seven women 30,000 years ago.

You realize that this is just the mitochondrial DNA, which is lost if a woman's only surviving children happen to be sons?  There easily could have been seven THOUSAND women in the founding population, and the mitochondria of 6,993 weren't passed down because of chance events like that.

Interesting that you name Razib Khan --an atheist.

You asked for someone prominent, I gave you one.  Your sudden objection to atheism shows that you're not opposed to evolution on the evidence, but as an argument from consequences:  if evolution is true, the stories in your holy book are just fables and there's no reason to believe.  This is a fallacy as well as a non-sequitur; your objection boils down to "Razib Khan is an atheist, therefore evolution is false".  That's ridiculous.

I don't need a darkie like Razib Khan to tell me my people are superior

When he's making what a lawyer would call an "admission against interest", why don't you take him seriously?  Turn on your reasoning faculties and ponder that a while.

The issue of the Chinese exploration fleet is another two-sided sword.  If it never existed, it's one sort of failure (a fable spun to cover for a lack of accomplishment); if it did exist, it's a different sort of failure (a failure of nerve and the centralized, bureaucratized power structure).  You deny any evidence that contradicts your dogma anyway, so I'm not going to argue it with you.  I'm just showing that you attribute to me a position I do not hold regarding the Chinese (and probably many other things).

Say, whatever happened to "do not bear false witness"?

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Mr. Rational said...

Your 10,000 year explosion theory is just that

I named the authors, neither of whom is me; I'll give you a cite for it (ISBN 978-0-465-00221-4).  Also, the "just a theory" assertion is another marker for anti-science crankishness.  In science, "theory" is a term of art a long way from the popular connotation of "hypothesis".  A scientific theory is an over-arching explanation which ties together a body of facts.  Evolution is a fact, and the various theories (yes, I said theories) of evolution have considerably better support than most of our theories of gravity.

It's true.  It's real.  It explains the differences we observe.  More to the point, it tells us that our racial problems cannot be fixed by faith-based measures such as praying the savagery away.  It might give us anti-TNB tools, such as drugs which increase dopamine levels in the frontal cortex.  Here we are, on the brink of scientific proof that Blacks are genetically deficient in impulse control in a specific (and possibly treatable) way.  This could lead to laws requiring such treatment as a condition of attending school or mixing in general society... while you deny that anything of the sort could exist because it's "just a theory" that you disbelieve!

One person's faith-based crap is no better than anyone else's; it's all handwaving.  The value of science is that it's repeatable and if something is wrong, there are methods for proving it wrong.  It's the best and maybe the ONLY thing we have against the radical egalitarians claiming that "there's only one race, the human race", and you want to throw it away.

Are you the enemy, or just clueless?

Mr. Rational said...

Speaking of anti-TNB drugs, one possibility is to test all applicants for public assistance for treatable impulsivity traits.  Imagine if Shaniqua and her brood had to boost their dopamine to qualify for their EBT and Section 8.

We might have ghetto Blacks divide into 2 groups:
1.  Those who don't want to be ghetto Blacks any more, and take dopamine enhancers to help them act White.
2.  Those who love being Black, and decide that Liberia or Ghana is more like home.

I have a dream... that 20 million dysfunctional parasites could suddenly find themselves both able to hold jobs, and WANTING TO!  I have a dream, my White brothers and sisters!

Discard said...

I think it very unlikely that the foul-smelling, decomposing body of an American airman was returned anywhere's but to the soil. The personal effects, yes, but not a reeking corpse. Somebody must have watched the end of that movie "Pearl Harbor" once too often.
And exactly how does the World War 2 co-operation between Americans and Chinese against a common enemy indicate that Chinese are on our side today, particularly given the decades of enmity and even war between us since then? WW2 is wholly irrelevant to the question of immigration. After all, Mexico was on our side back then too. If a temporary alliance 65 years ago is supposedly evidence of Chinese good will, you've got no evidence at all.

MuayTyson said...

@ Silent Running,

I'm not pushing the good Asian meme. I'm telling you you don't know shit about Asians.
Trust me too many Asians in America makes it Asia not America just like too many Whites in Asia make it more like America.
There are plenty of things Asians do to confuse and piss me off on a daily basis but I don't feel violently threatened by them.

It is all about choices. I choose to live in Korea they choose to have me. If you want to live in a completely homogenous place I don't begrudge you a bit. If you don't want your daughter to be involved with a mixed Asian kid fine it is your family I still don't give a shit.
The World is small be realistic there is going to be some mixing and like homosexuality it will never be the norm but a small percentage of people and I am fine with that. I don't push it and I am not against it.

Anonymous said...

We might have ghetto Blacks divide into 2 groups:
1. Those who don't want to be ghetto Blacks any more, and take dopamine enhancers to help them act White.


This is an absolutely, positively horrific idea even more detestable than our current situation.

What you propose is that you mask genetic deficiencies so that blacks can integrate better, which would lead to much more successful genetic integration with whites. Thus, you would facilitate even greater rates of dysfunctional genes mixing into the white gene pool. Remember, the dysfunction is only masked with treatment, the original genetics remain through inheritance.

An extension of this paradigm is looking to mixed race blacks to determine their inherent levels of genetic dysfunction. This is genetic cheating. Assessing a "brown"(mixed) black person for social and cognitive function is disingenuous as far as group assessment goes. They have European genes. Even then, the black genes are almost overwhelming in their dominance of personality, although you do see outliers and you will see differences in mixed AA's and pure African blacks. In the mixed AA group, the European who donated his or her genes is the genetic loser as far as across-the-board cognition is valued.

Although living with any numerically significant group of blacks is horrible, knowing what I know of the genetic component of the horribleness, I think that their average dysfunction is the lesser of two evils. It serves to keep them socially separated from normal people to a large extent, despite the best efforts of the media and dumbed down educational system to close that cultural gap - most effecting the ranks of poor whites. The other option would be blacks that are genetically dysfunctional but who easily mask the personality that serves as the red flag of the dysfunction, which is what the quoted poster above proposes. At this point in the game, no one here should be looking to more successful integration as a goal. That's a naive ideal held mostly by DWL's and enemies of European-American Society. The reality is more raw.

Anonymous said...

Don't love the China man.

Primarily because he doesn't love you. That's a fact.

The Chinese are perfectly racist. I don't begrudge them that characteristic, I actually admire it, but it is a group competitive threat to our group. It is significant given their numbers.

They will destroy Europeans to save or bolster their race, if they have the chance. Blacks and other dark races are less than nothing to them. No one can accuse the China man of being culturally ignorant.

Their culture is geared for survival. They have no Christian religion telling them to love everyone. They have only themselves. Their priority is their survival and ultimate success, not the afterlife. Our culture has been molded for extinction. Think about how that came about, and why that is. You need to go back-a-ways. Approximately 2000 years.

Do you really think that the higher ups have the world slated for low-IQ, high violence black, Latino, and Muslim (moderate IQ) dominance?

Not likely.

These races are culturally and genetically preparing indigenous Europeans for utter domination. Military domination.

Who's in debt? Who owns that debt?

Who has perfect group culture for survival (two significant groups)? Whose group culture and politics is actively oppressed, preventing survival?

Whose country is being invaded? Whose country is not?

Whose country is based on manufacturing? Whose is not?

Whose military is scaling down? Whose is scaling up?

Who has the overwhelming, insurmountable advantage in population numbers?

The greater game is tough to figure out, but the facts fit together well into a larger conspiratorial picture of eventual active Chinese military dominance if one considers it long enough.

There are some who claim that Mao was inserted by the CIA. There is apparently evidence for this, but I can't remember recall the source at the moment. I believe it was records as they were presented in a book. A Chinese general gave an inner circle political speech a few years back detailing plans for the complete genocide of American citizens. You can readily find it via Google. I tried to debunk it but couldn't. If it's fake, it's very long and well written.

Zenster said...

Anon (8/3 11:10 PM): What you propose is that you mask genetic deficiencies so that blacks can integrate better, which would lead to much more successful genetic integration with whites. Thus, you would facilitate even greater rates of dysfunctional genes mixing into the white gene pool. Remember, the dysfunction is only masked with treatment, the original genetics remain through inheritance. [emphasis added]

As I become increasingly convinced by the amazing body of evidence regarding genetic predisposition regularly presented here at SBPDL, I must concur that race-mixing with Blacks is a completely losing proposition for any other race. There are simply too many overwhelming disadvantages to introducing Black genetics into any other racial gene pool.

As an example of this, I doubt if even Australian Aborigines would benefit from race-mixing with Blacks. Or would the results cross-cancel? I wonder.

An extension of this paradigm is looking to mixed race blacks to determine their inherent levels of genetic dysfunction. This is genetic cheating. Assessing a "brown"(mixed) black person for social and cognitive function is disingenuous as far as group assessment goes. They have European genes. Even then, the black genes are almost overwhelming in their dominance of personality, although you do see outliers and you will see differences in mixed AA's and pure African blacks. In the mixed AA group, the European who donated his or her genes is the genetic loser as far as across-the-board cognition is valued.

Again, repeating the defect-inducing aspect of race-mixing with Blacks mentioned in the above paragraph.

It is cold, hard fact-based comments like these that have really helped to open my eyes about racialism and the importance of it.

Finally, please consider adopting a fixed monicker so that I can track your specific comments more easily. I'm positive that I asked you this before on more than one occasion.

Mr. Rational said...

What you propose is that you mask genetic deficiencies so that blacks can integrate better, which would lead to much more successful genetic integration with whites.

Oh, no, Anonymous.  Identifying that kind of deficiency (in anyone) also makes it legitimate to deny things like child tax credits; if your genes are dysfunctional, the least you can do is not pass them along.  Maybe give all carriers a bonus if they get sterilized, so their children can't cause trouble in school.

It hits dysfunctional po' White trash equally (who are poor because they have problems like poor impulse control), so it's not racist.  It's eugenic, but it sneaks race realism under the radar.

Relatively Anonynumous said...

RobertB (July 31, 2012 10:25 PM):

"At the time the Constitution was written, there wasn't a single sane person in the Western World who thought blacks were fully human."

What do you mean by "At the time the Constitution was written"? Do you think that any sane person has thought so at any other point in history?

Relatively Anonynumous said...

RobertB (July 31, 2012 10:25 PM):

"At the time the Constitution was written, there wasn't a single sane person in the Western World who thought blacks were fully human."

What do you mean by "At the time the Constitution was written"? Do you think that any sane person has thought so at any other point in history?

Quaran Nation said...

I think that all white people should be flogged with a knout or cat o' nine tails, starting at infancy, by large and imposing black males as an annual ritual, even if they've never engaged in racism...as a preemptive measure and as a source of reparation. As a further act of reparation, white people should have serve black families...sexually and otherwise...to ensure that current and future generations of white people have adequate levels of humility in the presence of black people. Only when white people fear black people so deeply they are incapable of considering hate can there be ANY CONCEPT of EQUALITY among the two races.